JRob Fired. Wyatt Confirmed.

[IrishTitansFan]

Just now, BlueThunder said:

Irish has lost his mind. Have you seen Brady lately? He should be benched. What a moron. 

Not surprising this is your response seeing as you cannot read.

 

If you manage to do some text to audio on my post, you'll see I said he will not be better than Tannehill in 2023, that I am not advocating for it, I simply think it's a possibility due to Vrabel's love for his guys

 

And no, Tom Brady should not be benched for Blaine Gabbert

 

He isn't playing well, but he's very far back on the Bucs offensive problems behind play calling, no running game, no interior OL, Wirfs Injury, Evans has been bad, Godwin had been hurt, no TE play etc etc etc

 

I like Tannehill over Brady but he's not done. I agree he'd be a bad fit but I have found Vrabel absolutely loves guys he's worked with before, he loves Brady, and number 1 of all, Brady never turns the ball over. Sometimes I get the feeling Vrabel would be happy if a QB had 0 TD's and 0 INT's in 17 games

[DecepticonShawn2]

1 minute ago, IrishTitansFan said:

Not surprising this is your response seeing as you cannot read.

 

If you manage to do some text to audio on my post, you'll see I said he will not be better than Tannehill in 2023, that I am not advocating for it, I simply think it's a possibility due to Vrabel's love for his guys

 

And no, Tom Brady should not be benched for Blaine Gabbert

 

He isn't playing well, but he's very far back on the Bucs offensive problems behind play calling, no running game, no interior OL, Wirfs Injury, Evans has been bad, Godwin had been hurt, no TE play etc etc etc

 

I like Tannehill over Brady but he's not done. I agree he'd be a bad fit but I have found Vrabel absolutely loves guys he's worked with before, he loves Brady, and number 1 of all, Brady never turns the ball over. Sometimes I get the feeling Vrabel would be happy if a QB had 0 TD's and 0 INT's in 17 games

We all know what it’s gonna come down too so how’s Brady’s Run Blocking been lately?

[BudsOilers]

14 minutes ago, Downtown said:

We didn't have these roster woes until we paid big money to our QB. Its those big QB contracts you have to plan around. The whole benefit of blowing it up for 2023 would be to front load Big Jeff and Long as much as you can to open another window in 2024/2025. That window with a prime defense could be with Tanny if he takes a decent pay cut or it could be with structured around a cheaper QB that we give all the tools (rookie, journeyman, etc). But I can't imagine the plan is anything other than build the defense back up and make the offense just good enough. 

 

This is not correct.  The issue is that most teams that pay their good QB's always structure them as a mechanism to get cap space if needed because they typically are the biggest deals.  Dumb fuck Robinson panicked on the Julio deal and had to go to Tannehill's deal in June to get cap space to take on Jones' full contract.  That took Tannehill's deal off the table to be modified in 2022 because the offseason is largely over by then.  

 

Good cap management gives teams flexibility with their core guys in win now mode.

[BudsOilers]

21 minutes ago, tgo said:

 

Oh he will probably get open all the time. As far as catching the ball consistently or winning contested catches - totally different story. 

This.  He's a tease as he has zero ball skills.

[japan]

2 hours ago, Nash said:

Not to forget, she’s paid for significant facilities and staff upgrades , further stressing the finances

Everything you mentioned was within her control.  She chose to build the better facility and is choosing to help finance the stadium.  But before all of that you need to have money to run the team.

[XAEA12]

51 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

 

Brady REQUIRES great pass protection, tons of shotgun plays, and really good receivers.  He'd be an awful fit here IMO.

 

I know some would call it garbage time, but Tannehill looked his best in shotgun in the Jags game. With an OL this bad it only makes sense to run more plays in shotgun to buy your QB more time.

 

Really disappointed in the staff's inability to play to the trengths and work around the weaknesses of its personell. It's like they have their thing and will stick to it regardless, and I think that's why we've seen the team get outperformed in the second half of so many games.

 

Downing just doesn't seem to have a feel for the game. The cute play with the botched snap to Henry was the dumbest shit at the most critical point of the game.

[BudsOilers]

2 hours ago, Nash said:

This morning’s thought after reading this article:  It’s been reported that Amy and the family had to mortgage everything they had to come up with 700 million for the new stadium.. JRob wasted significant money on missed draft picks(his job) and wasted even more on Clowney, Beasley, Woods, Dupree, Jamarcus Jones, Dennis Dayley, Jackrabbit, Cunningham and now the bills have come due.. if I were stretched financially because of malfeasance of an employee, I’d make a change also.. furthermore, Amy must have felt JRob took advantage of her and his authority, so as you guys have said, the trust was broken

I don't think this is accurate about their funding of the stadium.  They are not putting in all of the 700 M themselves - the NFL is putting in a piece and some is coming from PSL's and sponsorships.

 

But no question Robinson's failed moves cost the team 10's of millions of dollars

[BudsOilers]

1 minute ago, XAEA12 said:

 

I know some would call it garbage time, but Tannehill looked his best in shotgun in the Jags game. With an OL this bad it only makes sense to run more plays in shotgun to buy your QB more time.

 

Really disappointed in the staff's inability to play to the trengths and work around the weaknesses of its personell. It's like they have their thing and will stick to it regardless, and I think that's why we've seen the team get outperformed in the second half of so many games.

 

Downing just doesn't seem to have a feel for the game. The cute play with the botched snap to Henry was the dumbest shit at the most critical point of the game.

They were down a ton though - the issue is that the unit as constructed cannot just drop back and pass a ton - you'd have sacks either due to the poor pass blocking or receivers not getting open.

 

Add in the Henry issue and he's much more effective lined up with the QB under center.  It would be a bad match with Brady at this point.

[japan]

1 hour ago, IrishTitansFan said:

If Vrabel gets a significant say, I wouldn't 100% rule out going for Brady. A few things would make it attractive to them:

 

1: He's Vrabels best friend

2: It's Tom Brady, he demands attention and sells tickets

3: Although clearly declining, he is not done as a goood NFL QB to this point

4: He never turns the ball over and is basically an additional offensive mind

5: He would likely take an extremely team friendly deal

 

 

Do I think come 2023 he will be a better QB than Tannehill? Hell no but Vrabel likes his buddies 

I doubt Brady is going to come here with this horrid line, few weapons and a coach that wants to run.  I wouldn't be shocked if Payton went back to New Orleans and Brady went there.  Saints have no #1 pick to get a guy of the future.

[japan]

19 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

 

But no question Robinson's failed moves cost the team 10's of millions of dollars

10's of millions? LOL.  That the cost of business for running an NFL team.  Hits and misses.  

Edited December 13, 2022 by japan

[Mythos27]

1 hour ago, IrishTitansFan said:

Not surprising this is your response seeing as you cannot read.

 

If you manage to do some text to audio on my post, you'll see I said he will not be better than Tannehill in 2023, that I am not advocating for it, I simply think it's a possibility due to Vrabel's love for his guys

 

And no, Tom Brady should not be benched for Blaine Gabbert

 

He isn't playing well, but he's very far back on the Bucs offensive problems behind play calling, no running game, no interior OL, Wirfs Injury, Evans has been bad, Godwin had been hurt, no TE play etc etc etc

 

I like Tannehill over Brady but he's not done. I agree he'd be a bad fit but I have found Vrabel absolutely loves guys he's worked with before, he loves Brady, and number 1 of all, Brady never turns the ball over. Sometimes I get the feeling Vrabel would be happy if a QB had 0 TD's and 0 INT's in 17 games

Totally lost it at text to audio lmfao!

[BudsOilers]

5 minutes ago, japan said:

10's of millions? LOL.  That the cost of business for running an NFL team.  Hits and misses.  

 

It adds up though.  If it's no big deal, why isn't he still employed?

 

They were 7th in dead money in 2020 with 31 M.  11th last year with 30 M.  This year better with 24 M (ranked 24th) but match that with high pick misses and that's a lot of wasted operating capital.

 

That doesn't even count minimal ROI on Clowney, Mariota's 5th year, Delanie's extension in 2018, Farley, etc.

 

 

[ctm]

54 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

I don't think this is accurate about their funding of the stadium.  They are not putting in all of the 700 M themselves - the NFL is putting in a piece and some is coming from PSL's and sponsorships.

 

But no question Robinson's failed moves cost the team 10's of millions of dollars

 1.  The Nashville metro council hasn't even approved the deal yet.  So why would AAS take out a mortage now for a deal that isn't finalized?

2.  You can almost guaranteed that when she does pay her part on the stadium that there will be a payment schedule, not all the money up front.  Stadium construction hasn't even approved much less started.

3.  She recently just bought 330 acres of raw land in Williamson Co. for 18M that she doesn't plan to develop, just sit on as an investment.  That doesn't sound like an owner that has financial issues.

[BudsOilers]

1 minute ago, ctm said:

 1.  The Nashville metro council hasn't even approved the deal yet.  So why would AAS take out a mortage now for a deal that isn't finalized?

2.  You can almost guaranteed that when she does pay her part on the stadium that there will be a payment schedule, not all the money up front.  Stadium construction hasn't even approved much less started.

3.  She recently just bought 330 acres of raw land in Williamson Co. for 18M that she doesn't plan to develop, just sit on as an investment.  That doesn't sound like an owner that has financial issues.

Yes she's fine financially.  Eating Quiver Chin's contract was probably 10-15 M alone - a blip on her radar.

[SleepingTitan]

Considering how well land and oil is performing over the last 2 years, I seriously doubt there are liquidity concerns. 

 

Gonna take a Brinks truck to sign Simmons though.