begooode Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, ctm said: The reason I made the previous post is that it looks like to me that the shortest path to a governing majority in the House is the democrats plus a handful of moderate republicans. Doesn't have to be Cheney as the speaker. Another moderate republican will do. the retired guy from House of Commons. ORDER!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 11, 2022 Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: If I had to sum it up, I have zero idea what the Republicans stand for except for grievance politics. You don't have to like Democrats to admit the Republican Party is a decayed husk at this point. It was easier for Trump in 2015-16 — undo everything Obama did and call it maga. In 2020, gop says: whatever Trump sez! We can’t keep up with it either. 2022: urhm… inflation and crime are bad! Fight Dem groomers!! Voter Fraud task forces!! Real policies, articulated policies, not so much. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted November 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, begooode said: It was easier for Trump in 2015-16 — undo everything Obama did and call it maga. In 2020, gop says: whatever Trump sez! We can’t keep up with it either. 2022: urhm… inflation and crime are bad! Fight Dem groomers!! Voter Fraud task forces!! Real policies, articulated policies, not so much. Watching videos of these idiots staked out at drop boxes with masks and AR 15s says it all. It's absolute insanity. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 Former President Donald Trump is calling up his allies in the Senate, GOP sources tell CNN, and making a suggestion as he seeks to divert blame for – Republicans’ lackluster midterm performance: Take aim at Mitch McConnell. Trump, who is facing a round of sharp criticism from inside his own party for hurting Republican candidates in the midterms, has instead sought to gin up opposition to McConnell ahead of leadership elections next week – even as the GOP leader has already locked down enough support to win another two years, which would make him the longest-serving Senate party leader in US history. https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/politics/trump-republican-senate-leadership-elections/index.html OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 Trump vs the Republican party, the battle we always knew Trump would wage titanruss, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Ron DeSanctimonious: https://twitter.com/i/status/1588539069243473924 Edited November 12, 2022 by ctm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nine Posted November 12, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 5 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Trump vs the Republican party, the battle we always knew Trump would wage Virtually everything Trump has ever touched or been involved with was eventually ruined and destroyed by Trump's ego, narcissism, and insecurity. The Republican party sold its soul for Trump's brand of bombastic extremist propaganda. But as has always been the case, Trump's success was hollow and short-lived....and now the Republican party is paying the price after alienating millions of moderate voters with years of false and empty rhetoric. After the pathetic and embarrassing implosion of all the "Red Wave" propaganda, Trump is now predictably shifting blame to the Republican party, targeting party leaders for remaining loyal to the party rather than declaring fealty to House Trump. What's amazing is that even after 40+ years of failure and broken promises associated with the Trump brand .....a significant percentage of Republicans STILL choose to willingly buy into his shameless self-promotion and bullshit propaganda. The guy has systematically ruined virtually everything and everyone he's ever touched....and these people are doing everything in their power to get their names added to the list. OILERMAN, pamo9, IsntLifeFunny, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted November 12, 2022 Report Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BigTT said: Both could easily out debate Trump (and did in Biden's case) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 6 hours ago, BigTT said: I’m stupid. Indeed. WG53 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, nine said: Virtually everything Trump has ever touched or been involved with was eventually ruined and destroyed by Trump's ego, narcissism, and insecurity. The Republican party sold its soul for Trump's brand of bombastic extremist propaganda. But as has always been the case, Trump's success was hollow and short-lived....and now the Republican party is paying the price after alienating millions of moderate voters with years of false and empty rhetoric. After the pathetic and embarrassing implosion of all the "Red Wave" propaganda, Trump is now predictably shifting blame to the Republican party, targeting party leaders for remaining loyal to the party rather than declaring fealty to House Trump. What's amazing is that even after 40+ years of failure and broken promises associated with the Trump brand .....a significant percentage of Republicans STILL choose to willingly buy into his shameless self-promotion and bullshit propaganda. The guy has systematically ruined virtually everything and everyone he's ever touched....and these people are doing everything in their power to get their names added to the list. Trump didn’t destroy the GOP, he just exposed it for what it truly is. That doesn’t mean the fight is over, it just lays out what battlefield really is. This is long from over. Edited November 13, 2022 by Rogue chef 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chef Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 36 minutes ago, Rogue said: Trump didn’t destroy the GOP, he just exposed it for what it truly is. That doesn’t mean the fight is over, it just lays out what battlefield really is. This is long from over. Again like I said when Trump got elected. I hope this hope process is akin to resetting a previously broken bone that healed incorrectly. Back then (2016) was in regards to racism as reaction to Obama but has grown to so much more. Basically the Trump Era either resets America for the benefit of future generations, or else really was the beginning of the end. All it has really reinforced to me is that a significant % of Americans and likely the world are as ignorant and gullible AF. It's the same mechanisms that lead to people gassing Jews, Japanese citizens believing the emperor was a God, and for some North Koreans to accept that Kim Jong Il did not poop. It's hardwired into humanity, just waiting.... begging... for the next Trump/Kim/Hitler//Mao/P T Barnum et al to come along. Pass on all individual responsibility to this greater power to lead them, to absolve them of personal guilt like a Catholic confessional after a rough weekend in Vegas. I guess I'm glad we (used to) breed like cockroaches, since if a singular earth god honored the prayers of every person on this planet, there'd be not a single human left. Maybe one day we can move past so much of this. We have taken some pretty amazing steps forward. I'm an old dad with young kids, so gotta hope we take many more. nine, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted November 13, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Rogue said: Trump didn’t destroy the GOP, he just exposed it for what it truly is. It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump This is not a book about how Donald J. Trump hijacked the Republican Party and changed it into something else. Stevens shows how Trump is in fact the natural outcome of five decades of hypocrisy and self-delusion, dating all the way back to the civil rights legislation of the early 1960s. Stevens shows how racism has always lurked in the modern GOP's DNA, from Goldwater's opposition to desegregation to Ronald Reagan's welfare queens and states' rights rhetoric. He gives an insider's account of the rank hypocrisy of the party's claims to embody "family values", and shows how the party's vaunted commitment to fiscal responsibility has been a charade since the 1980s. When a party stands for nothing, he argues, it is only natural that it will be taken over by the loudest and angriest voices in the room. Rogue, Starkiller, IsntLifeFunny, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 Imagine a Trump vs Desantis Primary, now think about Desantis winning a state and Trump claiming it was rigged. A very real possibility What will the election deniers think then? IsntLifeFunny, and MadMax 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Imagine a Trump vs Desantis Primary, now think about Desantis winning a state and Trump claiming it was rigged. A very real possibility What will the election deniers think then? For a huge portion of maga they will conveniently say Trump is wrong , he is lying (now?), because it doesn’t benefit their new allegiance to DeSantis. They are fine with Trump’s lies and the narcissistic fueled hate when it benefits them, and they construct all manner of defenses and deflections to protect him. If he goes after their new god king, it will be different, especially after these midterm results. CreepingDeath, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted November 13, 2022 Report Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) I'm curious how DeSantis will balance abortion, the primaries, and the general election. Florida obviously did a 15 week ban and is now eyeing a 12 week ban. The thing to watch IMO is if even a 12 week ban is good enough for pro-life Republicans in the primaries. 97% of abortions in Florida in 2020 occurred within 12 weeks, so even if they go lower than 15, the effect is negligible if you think abortion is immoral. Obviously, this helps DeSantis in the general because even a 12 week ban, especially if it has exceptions for rape or incest, would be the populist opinion nationwide. I don't see how that would be acceptable to pro-life Republicans though. How can a state with Republican super majorities and a Republican governor settle on just banning 3% of abortions? I think it would hurt him in the primary if abortion is brought up. https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/11/incoming-senate-leader-supports-12-week-abortion-ban-while-house-stays-quiet-00066549 Edited November 13, 2022 by Titans279 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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