titansfan Posted May 30 Report Share Posted May 30 (edited) 46 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Exactly.... Dike plays Z and the slot, like Ridley. Ayomanor is an X, like Tate We'll see... before the draft you and others were calling Tate a pure Z Edited May 30 by titansfan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 2 hours ago, titansfan said: We'll see... before the draft you and others were calling Tate a pure Z WTF are you talking about? I never said anything such thing IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 26 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: WTF are you talking about? I never said anything such thing I’d assume he’s taking the common talking point people had that Tate could be a really good #2 and not a dominant #1. Then somehow spinning #2 WR into Z only lol. Mythos27, ctm, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 4 hours ago, FRT said: Ayo plays STs until injuries start piling up. Ayomanor could easily be inactive until injuries start piling up MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 3 hours ago, titansfan said: We'll see... before the draft you and others were calling Tate a pure Z Tate might be a better fit at Z than X in the long run. We’ll see how he does against the jam and press man. But on this team, Tate is the X because no one else can play the X. Justafan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Starkiller said: Tate might be a better fit at Z than X in the long run. We’ll see how he does against the jam and press man. But on this team, Tate is the X because no one else can play the X. Tate will not be bound by your silly lables, he shall be the Alpha and the Omega of WRs. NashvilleNinja, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 6 minutes ago, Callidus said: Tate will not be bound by your silly lables, he shall be the Alpha and the Omega of WRs. I’d prefer he was Omegatron CreepingDeath, and NashvilleNinja 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 9 hours ago, TheBukafax said: I’d assume he’s taking the common talking point people had that Tate could be a really good #2 and not a dominant #1. Then somehow spinning #2 WR into Z only lol. I never even said any of that, I barely ever talked about Tate TheBukafax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justafan Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 14 hours ago, titansfan said: We'll see... before the draft you and others were calling Tate a pure Z I was the one who said I thought he would struggle with press at the next level. We'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManningEnvy Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 10 minutes ago, Justafan said: I was the one who said I thought he would struggle with press at the next level. We'll see. Get your freeloading ass back on those neck boards and do my bidding you tard bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 The idea that Tate is more of a Z than X has to do with the fact he's not built like Megatron or Julio. But he doesn't have to be. People have it in their minds that the X has to be at least 6'4", 225 lbs of pure muscle, but there are other ways to play X than simply out muscling and bullying dudes. Route running, strong sideline catch abilities, velcro hands, etc. Yes, Tate needs to be able to beat press at the line but he can do that without being a Hulk. Justin Jefferson is more of a zipper like Tate (195 lbs) and he beats it all the time. He and Chase, Adams, and Terry McLaurin are all a bit shorter than Tate too. Reggie Wayne was shorter. All these guys have won at the line in their own ways. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: The idea that Tate is more of a Z than X has to do with the fact he's not built like Megatron or Julio. But he doesn't have to be. People have it in their minds that the X has to be at least 6'4", 225 lbs of pure muscle, but there are other ways to play X than simply out muscling and bullying dudes. Route running, strong sideline catch abilities, velcro hands, etc. Yes, Tate needs to be able to beat press at the line but he can do that without being a Hulk. Justin Jefferson is more of a zipper like Tate (195 lbs) and he beats it all the time. He and Chase, Adams, and Terry McLaurin are all a bit shorter than Tate too. Reggie Wayne was shorter. All these guys have won at the line in their own ways. Yep, he just has to show that he can do it when teams are focusing on stopping him. But that’s the big question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: The idea that Tate is more of a Z than X has to do with the fact he's not built like Megatron or Julio. But he doesn't have to be. People have it in their minds that the X has to be at least 6'4", 225 lbs of pure muscle, but there are other ways to play X than simply out muscling and bullying dudes. Route running, strong sideline catch abilities, velcro hands, etc. Yes, Tate needs to be able to beat press at the line but he can do that without being a Hulk. Justin Jefferson is more of a zipper like Tate (195 lbs) and he beats it all the time. He and Chase, Adams, and Terry McLaurin are all a bit shorter than Tate too. Reggie Wayne was shorter. All these guys have won at the line in their own ways. I disagree a bit. I think people don't view him as an X because he wasn't the go to player, hasn't shown "explosion" like breakaway speed/rac, and it was unproven if he could beat press without help. I think his length is fine, but you'd like to see a bit more muscle eventually... if any of the above prove to be true. Jefferson was also an inch and a half shorter and almost 10 lbs heavier at the combine. .1 faster 40. I so don't know if he was viewed as a #1 until he proved it. Edited May 31 by titanruss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 31 Report Share Posted May 31 I've seen nothing but it reported as a given that Tate is the X. Who are the people saying otherwise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted May 31 Author Report Share Posted May 31 15 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: I've seen nothing but it reported as a given that Tate is the X. Who are the people saying otherwise? It's probably just regurgitation of 2nd hand opinions from outside people. I've only really seen talk of it from random Twitter twatters thinking they know what they're talking about. Same as with the people thinking Ayo is a Z. I guess all our receivers are in competiiton for that coveted Z spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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