TheChosenTitan Posted Sunday at 05:38 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:38 PM 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: If Bailey is anything close to Dwight Freeney, He 100% has to be the pick. It's pretty obvious he's the perfect scheme fit. He might not even last til 4. I want Bailey bad. He’s gonna be a stud titanruss, OILERMAN, and Supernope 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted Sunday at 05:49 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 05:49 PM 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: If they pick Love I'll totally understand it. And yes the comps to both players are hypothetical. But if they view both players as elite prospects(or even equal) they're taking the pass rusher over the RB. Love is also by far the safer pick to be an elite player Having a defensive head coach, probably tilts it a little towards Bailey as the pick if both are available. also I’d counter the second point with the edge player can have more productive years than the RB, whose peak and prime are shorter OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Sunday at 06:05 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 06:05 PM 1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said: Damn... Derrick Morgan? Wasn't he overdrafted where we took him at 16? It took him until year 7 before he finally got double digit sacks. To take him at 4 would be damn near fireable. Or if not fireable at least a reason to firmly pump the breaks on the unbridled Borgonzi love. You have to really think to find average edge players the Titans draft in round 1. We haven't drafted many in our history high. Morgan was what came to mind. Bailey's comp I'v read have been guys like Nik Bonitto and Jaelan Phillips — good players, Pro Bowl ceiling, real developmental questions, undersized for the position. Neither drafted in the top 10. titanskick8851, BeedoeLaw, and NashvilleNinja 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted Sunday at 07:03 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:03 PM 3 hours ago, ctm said: If....If Love is a Marshal Faulk level player then he absolutely has to be the pick at 4. See how this argument works. If Love is at Faulk's level and Bailey is at Sweeney's level you take Bailey. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NashvilleNinja Posted Sunday at 07:26 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:26 PM 15 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: If Love is at Faulk's level and Bailey is at Sweeney's level you take Bailey. What if Love is at Faulk's level, Bailey is at Sweeney's level, Malachi Lawrence is at Trey Hendrickson's level, and Jadarian Price is at prime/peak Tony Pollard level? Do you take Bailey (Sweeney) in 1, Price (Pollard) in 2? Or do you take Love (Faulk) in 1 and Lawrence (Hendrickson) in 2? TheBukafax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Sunday at 07:27 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:27 PM 1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said: What if Love is at Faulk's level, Bailey is at Sweeney's level, Malachi Lawrence is at Trey Hendrickson's level, and Jadarian Price is at prime/peak Tony Pollard level? Do you take Bailey (Sweeney) in 1, Price (Pollard) in 2? Or do you take Love (Faulk) in 1 and Lawrence (Hendrickson) in 2? Sweeney Todd? Pass rns90, NashvilleNinja, and Supernope 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted Sunday at 07:33 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:33 PM 6 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: What if Love is at Faulk's level, Bailey is at Sweeney's level, Malachi Lawrence is at Trey Hendrickson's level, and Jadarian Price is at prime/peak Tony Pollard level? Do you take Bailey (Sweeney) in 1, Price (Pollard) in 2? Or do you take Love (Faulk) in 1 and Lawrence (Hendrickson) in 2? If Malachi Lawrence is Trey Hendrickson he probably doesn't last until round 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted Sunday at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:38 PM 4 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: If Malachi Lawrence is Trey Hendrickson he probably doesn't last until round 2. Brugler recently said don't be surprised if Lawrence ends up as a top 25 pick. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted Sunday at 07:38 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:38 PM 1 minute ago, TF_Titan said: If Malachi Lawrence is Trey Hendrickson he probably doesn't last until round 2. Not everyone thinks or projects the same. But if you (Borgonzi) have a strong intuition that those will wind up being the comps when those players careers are done and they're available (Love & Lawrence) where we're drafting... who do you take? And fwiw, Trey Hendrickson was drafted in the 3rd round. Just sayin... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan23 Posted Sunday at 07:46 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:46 PM What if we draft a freakish LB. Like the one we took in 1999. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM 5 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Not everyone thinks or projects the same. But if you (Borgonzi) have a strong intuition that those will wind up being the comps when those players careers are done and they're available (Love & Lawrence) where we're drafting... who do you take? And fwiw, Trey Hendrickson was drafted in the 3rd round. Just sayin... Obviously if teams knew how good Hendrickson would be he would have gone much earlier. The point is if they expect Lawrence to be on Hendrickson's level they can't assume he'll still be there when they pick in round 2. So you take the bird in the hand (Bailey). rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted Sunday at 07:52 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 07:52 PM 1 minute ago, TF_Titan said: Obviously if teams knew how good Hendrickson would be he would have gone much earlier. The point is if they expect Lawrence to be on Hendrickson's level they can't assume he'll still be there when they pick in round 2. So you take the bird in the hand (Bailey). Yeah... you're not getting around the scenario I'm posing. You either get Bailey (Freeney) and Price (Pollard) or you get Love (Faulk) and Lawrence (Hendrickson). That's the choice. It's fine if you want Freeney and Pollard. I'd just prefer Faulk and Hendrickson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM Report Share Posted Sunday at 08:04 PM 1 minute ago, NashvilleNinja said: Yeah... you're not getting around the scenario I'm posing. You either get Bailey (Freeney) and Price (Pollard) or you get Love (Faulk) and Lawrence (Hendrickson). That's the choice. It's fine if you want Freeney and Pollard. I'd just prefer Faulk and Hendrickson. The scenario you're posing is not realistic. Faulk and Hendrickson is not an option. Faulk and someone less than Hendrickson is the second option. Obviously they could draft an edge in the 3rd round who turns out to be the next Micah Parsons, but all you can go by on draft day is how you project them. And if Lawrence is projected at Hendrickson's level he's not an option with their 2nd pick. At minimum they'd be dumb to draft Love assuming Lawrence would drop to them in round 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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