Titans Get The #4 Pick In The Draft

[Justafan]

19 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Athletic dominance in college makes lots of players look much better than they actually are. When you get to the nfl as long as you hit a certain base line skill and instincts become much more valuable. 

I keep seeing this argument from you guys, and while there is truth to it, that doesn't mean it's true. Athleticism is important. Production is important. Health is important. Traits are important. All of that stuff paints a picture, and while one thing hardly ever tells you the full story, especially with WRs, ignoring important pieces of the puzzle ain't exactly a great strategy. 

[BTiger3733]

2 hours ago, Justafan said:

Ridley, who was taken at the end of the first round, was a better athlete than Tate. He had 3 years of high-level production at Alabama, all of which were better numbers than Tate had at OS in his lone year of good production (still not as good as Ridley was as a freshman). He also did it at Alabama, which ran the ball and played defense as much as anyone. He commanded a 33% target share even with other receivers like Amari Cooper on the team who were elite college talents. Ridley managed to stay healthy as well, another feat that Tate has not been able to accomplish. 

 

Some randoms on the internet think Tate's a HOFer, though, because he was able to make some nice catches on some free releases in college, so take him at #4 because he looks smooth! 

 

Give me a break. 

Ridley was also 2" shorter and had some legitimately terrible explosive testing numbers. There were real concerns during the draft that Ridley didn't improve at all over his three years at Alabama. His best year was his freshman season, then his production declined as defenses focused on him. Tate has improved every season. In Ridley's best season, Derrick Henry ran for 2200 yds and 28 TDs. Boxes were stacked. 

 

Also Ridley and Amari Cooper were never on the same team. Amari Cooper was definitely seen as the better draft prospect (and better college player). Just giving the other side of the argument from an Alabama fan's perspective. Tate is certainly a better prospect. 

Edited April 7 by BTiger3733

[TeamRamrod]

Who could have seen this coming?

[Pragidealist]

2 hours ago, Callidus said:

While I get the logic here, this is generally true for any rb and wr who are moderately near each other as a prospect. 

 

As for him being an X out of the gate, I think most will be suprised how good he is at beating press and double teams. You dont have a ton of it on tape partially because of the defense being shifted to cover Smith and thats understandable. However when teams did try and press him he would torch people. Similarly when a defender does have help over the top he beats his man so quickly and runs his routes in a way to create maximum seperation at the top of his route leading to help not having time to react or cover the distance in time. 

I can't say I watched a lot of actual game of Tate. I've watched some videos and read a lot of analysis.  Having said that - I thought one of his weakneses was against the press? He just isnt a big, strong Wr.  One of my concerns is that he'll get blanketed more easily and out muscled in the nfl vs college. 

[oldschool]

if Bailey and Reese go #2 and #3, Tate should be the pick at #4 imo. if Reese or Bailey are there, lets say the cards go OT, then you take whichever of those two are left.

[titansfan]

16 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

Jeremiah threw out Treydan Stukes as a possible wildcard to go at the bottom of the first round.

 

Really like him. Many consider him the best NB in the draft

[socaljake]

Schrager said everyone he's talking to is hearing Love to the Titans

Edited April 7 by socaljake

[Callidus]

1 hour ago, Pragidealist said:

I can't say I watched a lot of actual game of Tate. I've watched some videos and read a lot of analysis.  Having said that - I thought one of his weakneses was against the press? He just isnt a big, strong Wr.  One of my concerns is that he'll get blanketed more easily and out muscled in the nfl vs college. 

He doesn't let defenders touch him, be it at the line or during the route. A little shoulder dip here, a hand glance of his own there, a quick move at the line. 

 

I am sure he will have to refine it and put on some bulk in the nfl. He wont be able to matrix his way out of all contact in the nfl like he was most of the time in college. 

[TerryBoats]

Love will have more receptions as a rookie than Tate

 

 

 

 

[airmcnair22]

From Wyatt’s mailbag today:

 

Rick Davidson from Lone Oak, Kentucky
Question: Everyone seems to be focused on our first-round pick, which is normal. However, teams are built in the later rounds. How do you see the Titans moving in the later rounds, offense, defense, or best available?

 

Jim: Hey Rick. I think, for the most part, best available is the way the team will go. The Titans still have plenty of needs on each side of the football, and the best way to get better is to get the best guys, no matter the position. Of course needs are important, and the team won't waste picks if they're good at certain position. For example, the Titans won't take a QB if he's best available at the time. But the GM has said they'll go "best available" and I think that means throughout the draft.

[NashvilleNinja]

4 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

Love will have more receptions as a rookie than Tate

 

 

 

 

 

Mike Washington, Jadarian Price, or Emmett Johnson will be perfectly fine upgrades for us to pair with Tate.

[Justafan]

4 hours ago, BTiger3733 said:

Ridley was also 2" shorter and had some legitimately terrible explosive testing numbers. There were real concerns during the draft that Ridley didn't improve at all over his three years at Alabama. His best year was his freshman season, then his production declined as defenses focused on him. Tate has improved every season. In Ridley's best season, Derrick Henry ran for 2200 yds and 28 TDs. Boxes were stacked. 

 

Also Ridley and Amari Cooper were never on the same team. Amari Cooper was definitely seen as the better draft prospect (and better college player). Just giving the other side of the argument from an Alabama fan's perspective. Tate is certainly a better prospect. 

Lol. Tate improved to less than Ridley's worst season, while Ridley had more attention on him and Tate had less. Tate didn't even test most of the drills at the combine - the most obvious explanation being that he knew he wouldn't do great at those drills. 

 

What exactly are you basing the whole Tate was a better prospect conversation on? Certainly not the numbers, production, athletic testing, or traits. 

[Callidus]

37 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Lol. Tate improved to less than Ridley's worst season, while Ridley had more attention on him and Tate had less. Tate didn't even test most of the drills at the combine - the most obvious explanation being that he knew he wouldn't do great at those drills. 

 

What exactly are you basing the whole Tate was a better prospect conversation on? Certainly not the numbers, production, athletic testing, or traits. 

Maybe the fact tate is going to go top 8 at worst and ridley went 26th. 

[Justafan]

41 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Maybe the fact tate is going to go top 8 at worst and ridley went 26th. 

Yeah, that’s the point. Ridley was every bit the prospect Tate is. Maybe better. 

[Callidus]

5 minutes ago, Justafan said:

Yeah, that’s the point. Ridley was every bit the prospect Tate is. Maybe better. 

Not even close. Outside pure speed yate outclasses him in every way on the field. You are to stuck in the traditional numbers. 40 times, bulk yards. Analytics, efficiency stats, how a guy actually gets open are things that are mu h more important.