Game Thread: Week 7 Titans vs Patriots

[Callidus]

3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

PK said the Titans should have "honored" Vrabel and he and Buck went to Vrabel's postgame presser instead of the Titans

 

That's some seriously embarrassing cock gobbling

 

Honor him for what?

For completely checking out his final year here till the last game of the season so he could make the stupid fans happy for henry and blow our draft position. 

 

He was a real saint. 

 

Ill never forget the miami game. Dude was on the screen constantly because he didnt give a shit till we started that big comback, once the team already momentum massivly in our favor he started to pretend to care again. 

 

I dont see how anyone could dream of the coach who quit on the team. 

[oldschool]

3 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

I'm just  waiting to hear who is the next person we need to fire to fix the fact that we have no talent. 

 

I don't get this stance... everyone knew Callahan had to be fired. Nearly everyone knew it wouldn't be some magic fix for the team sucking.

[ChesterCopperpot1]

2 hours ago, oldschool said:

I agree with this. Aside from the fumble and a few off target throws due to footwork, yesterday was progress for Ward.

 

 

The fumble was just a boneheaded play and the pick was just bad footwork leading to an errant throw. Both mistakes were 100% on him, but I believe both a fixable. I didn't leave yesterday's game feeling completely hopeless. I don't know if Ward will be the guy, but anyone trying to have a conversation about him 7 games into his career is just retarded. 

[Callidus]

13 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

The fumble was just a boneheaded play and the pick was just bad footwork leading to an errant throw. Both mistakes were 100% on him, but I believe both a fixable. I didn't leave yesterday's game feeling completely hopeless. I don't know if Ward will be the guy, but anyone trying to have a conversation about him 7 games into his career is just retarded. 

Ya, im sure im ruffling a few feathers by bringing my up my pre draft thoughts on wanting something other than ward, but even I don't think the kid is a bust by any means. 

 

I always thought he would get there. It just depends on what "there" is to you. I think he will be above the dalton/lawrence line. My concern was will he get to that top 5 or top 8 you need to be to carry a team. 

Edited Monday at 02:50 PM by Callidus

[Mythos27]

2 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

I don't get this stance... everyone knew Callahan had to be fired. Nearly everyone knew it wouldn't be some magic fix for the team sucking.

The point is that rather than accepting where this roster is and that there is no villain, a lot of people decide to spend their time looking for scapegoats because it makes them feel better. A new whipping boy will emerge in the next few weeks. Some of the more irrational fans are already starting to turn on Cam which is absurd but completely par for the course when you really need someone to direct your frustrations at. 

[ChesterCopperpot1]

2 hours ago, TerryBoats said:

As far as throwing the ball is concerned, there's far more good than bad.  It's just occasional lapses in accuracy, which should be fixed with more technique work and as the game slows down for him.  He's flashed exceptional ball placement, while the INTs are from deflections at the LOS and by the receivers, not from overlooking creeping LBs/S or poor decisions (other than one).   I think with his varied arm angles, he'll be better at avoiding the tips once he's processing things more quickly.  

 

 

Dropping the ball is a more unique, worrisome issue. @AussieTitanFan08 is enjoying his victory laps, while I was satisfied by the low # in his final year and thought that a better OL would largely mitigate this issue .  His hand size is the same as Joe Burrow and Jared Goff, so maybe were jumping at conclusions that it's always going to be an issue for him.

I can only remember one where Ayomanor alligator armed a pass over the middle. 

 

The pick where Chig tipped it shouldn't be considered a drop because it was just an inaccurate pass, and that was the reason for the pick. 

[oldschool]

6 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

The point is that rather than accepting where this roster is and that there is no villain, a lot of people decide to spend their time looking for scapegoats because it makes them feel better. A new whipping boy will emerge in the next few weeks. Some of the more irrational fans are already starting to turn on Cam which is absurd but completely par for the course when you really need someone to direct your frustrations at. 

 

Who doesn't accept that? That being said the offense was more effective in the first half with the game was in doubt. They crossed midfield on their first 4 drives, scored 13 points which was basically their game average. They should have crossed midfield on their final drive of the half too. In the 2nd half the offense didn't get the ball till they were down 8 midway through the 3rd then the a single play leads to the fumble and they are down 18 before you can blink.

 

Its pretty clear the small tweaks: up tempo, RPos, Play action, Dike, Helm leapfrogging Chig, and so on, were all positive changes for the offense. Sure the talent is bear but the idea you are pushing that it doesn't matter because the talent is bad is off imo.

[TeamRamrod]

[IsntLifeFunny]

 

1 hour ago, TeamRamrod said:

 

This was the major takeaway for me. We can compete if we keep the game close and let them run the offense under center. As soon as it became a 2 possession game they tried to stick with it but the DE didn't bite on the fake and the game blew up from there. 

 

It was good to see the offense look functional. If it weren't for a terrible hold by Latham they would have scored on their first four possessions. 

[Mythos27]

31 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Who doesn't accept that? That being said the offense was more effective in the first half with the game was in doubt. They crossed midfield on their first 4 drives, scored 13 points which was basically their game average. They should have crossed midfield on their final drive of the half too. In the 2nd half the offense didn't get the ball till they were down 8 midway through the 3rd then the a single play leads to the fumble and they are down 18 before you can blink.

 

Its pretty clear the small tweaks: up tempo, RPos, Play action, Dike, Helm leapfrogging Chig, and so on, were all positive changes for the offense. Sure the talent is bear but the idea you are pushing that it doesn't matter because the talent is bad is off imo.

The offense looked to be better because it was brand new and 0 tape of us running it this way existed. After a half of seeing it, the opposing defense figured it out and completely shut it down. We saw the offense operate at a high level in the 4th quarter vs the Cardinals and that didn't last either. We changed play-callers and got worse. The we fired the HC/OC and still scored only 13 points while pretty much getting shut out in the 2nd half. The small tweaks are nice; they won't substantially change anything and because of this people will continue to find others to blame. I'm saying that I'm sick of the blame game and would rather have discussions about how we can improve this roster because that's what actually matters. Fully accepting where we are goes hand in hand with stopping the hunt for the next villain to blame  for our issue. I guarantee you another villain will emerge by season's end. Fans can't help themselves. 

Edited Monday at 03:24 PM by Mythos27

[AussieTitanFan08]

 

[Mythos27]

1 minute ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Yup. You can set historic marks when you play against historically bad teams. 

[Aramis]

1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

There is zero reason to consume any titans media. Do not give them a dime. Do nothing to put $ in their pockets. Don't listen to the shows. Don't read the articles. Nothing.

Just how bad the local media are really makes this place here seriously stand on a level of its own for titans info and discussion. As someone who hasn’t lived in the area in over 20 years, titanscentral and now titans report has kept me more in the loop than any Tennessean/ESPN/podcaster/blogger ever has.
 

So cheers to @TitansGuru for keeping the lights on and countless tools for users to curate their experience, the hands off moderation by the mods and those who contribute to make this what it is. 

[oldschool]

31 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

The offense looked to be better because it was brand new and 0 tape of us running it this way existed. After a half of seeing it, the opposing defense figured it out and completely shut it down. We saw the offense operate at a high level in the 4th quarter vs the Cardinals and that didn't last either. We changed play-callers and got worse. The we fired the HC/OC and still scored only 13 points while pretty much getting shut out in the 2nd half. The small tweaks are nice; they won't substantially change anything and because of this people will continue to find others to blame. I'm saying that I'm sick of the blame game and would rather have discussions about how we can improve this roster because that's what actually matters. Fully accepting where we are goes hand in hand with stopping the hunt for the next villain to blame  for our issue. I guarantee you another villain will emerge by season's end. Fans can't help themselves. 

 

dude. this is way off. The Pats D didn't figure out the offense like you claim. The Offense moved the ball against them for a full half and then next time they touched the ball they were down 11 and then the bad fumble, now they are down 18 and couldn't run their normal offense.

Edited Monday at 03:53 PM by oldschool

[Mythos27]

1 minute ago, oldschool said:

 

dude. this is way off. The Pats D didn't figure out the offense like you claim. The Offense moved the ball against that for a full half and then next time they touched the ball they were down 11 and then the baf fumble, now they are down 18 and couldn't run their normal offense.

Look, you don't have to agree with me. There will always be a rationalization. Just remember that I sad the improvement would marginal if there was any at all and that the Patriots would dominate us. You said I was over-selling the mismatch and that the offense would be be better. Things worked out a lot closer to what I said than what you said. This will continue to happen.