Teams have contacted the Titans regards trading for Roger McCreary and Arden Key

[tgo]

10 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

What is McCreary worth in trade compensation?

 

Oh not much because his contract is up, maybe swapping a 6th for a 5th or something like that I'd think. Or an additional 5th/6th. 

Edited October 17 by tgo

[Grizz]

3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I agree, but are guys like Bronwlee and McCreary part of the roster problems? Seems risky to create more holes

 

Brownlee move already looks dumb. Trade a young player on a cheap deal for nothing at the first sign of conflict? 

 

At some point building an abysmal roster has diminishing returns and hurts the development of our talent. 

[OILERMAN]

If they don't want to pay McCreary the big deal he's going to get after the season then I guess trade him for whatever you can get. 

 

But if this time next year Brownlee and McCreary are playing well and the Titans have a CB problem it's not going to look good. 

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, Grizz said:

 

Brownlee move already looks dumb. Trade a young player on a cheap deal for nothing at the first sign of conflict? 

 

At some point building an abysmal roster has diminishing returns and hurts the development of our talent. 

 

We've been over this. The team asked Brownlee to correct his technique and stop committing penalties, he refused then blew up behind the scenes. The belly aching over this move is absurd.

[Face]

3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

If you ship out McCreary after shipping out Brownlee you are completely clearing out the CB room. Sneed is 100% gone after the season as well. 

 

I understand you want your own type of players with certain measurables but getting rid of cheap young talent doesn't seem like it's worth it for very late round picks or swapping places late. 

 

 

Exactly. I know you mentioned this about a month or so ago but I would extend Roger. He’s a smart, tough nickel who can cover. He’s also a real good run player & tackler. He’s a good player. Maybe he didn’t become quite as good as hoped, I know I loved the pick, but I guess the best way I’d out it is you want a lot more guys like Roger on your defense then not. He’s a winning type player…..

[TerryBoats]

1 minute ago, oldschool said:

 

We've been over this. The team asked Brownlee to correct his technique and stop committing penalties, he refused then blew up behind the scenes. The belly aching over this move is absurd.

So some shitty coaches - who have either been fired or will be fired in a few months - talked our GM into trading a young talented player because he wasn't taking to their shitty coaching?  That doesn't sound like a GM who we can have any faith in to rebuild this roster.

[oldschool]

Just now, TerryBoats said:

So some shitty coaches - who have either been fired or will be fired in a few months - talked our GM into trading a young talented player because he wasn't taking to their shitty coaching?  That doesn't sound like a GM who we can have any faith in to rebuild this roster.

 

Borganzi has control of the roster, thats his job to make those decisions. If he wins more than he loses, he'll be a good GM. Not sure what you are really trying to argue here.

 

QBs have a 110 passer rating against McCreary and he's giving up nearly 10 yards per reception. He's a JAG and has been since he got here. 

[Jamalisms]

What the Titans should do is take what little talent they have and move it for some late round picks. That's always the best pathway to success.

[Starkiller]

In the end, McCreary is a good slot but not really worth paying mid-tier money to keep. Save the salary cap for better players down the road and get an extra day 3 draft pick for him. 

[OILERMAN]

7 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

 Save the salary cap for better players down the road and get an extra day 3 draft pick for him. 

 

Free agency has turned into a wasteland. You aren't getting quality talent in free agency anymore. 

 

The better players are likely overpaid free agents like Ridley, Sneed and Cushenberry 

[oldschool]

I wouldn't have any issues if they signed McCreary to a team friendly short extention that paid him average money. I also don't give a shit if they trade him because he's a JAG and if Borgonzi can't replace players like McCreary, he'll be a bad GM.

[Grizz]

22 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

We've been over this. The team asked Brownlee to correct his technique and stop committing penalties, he refused then blew up behind the scenes. The belly aching over this move is absurd.

 

Yes, and I disagree with this perspective. It is overly simplistic to me and knowing we had a coaching change perhaps there was opportunity to get things on board. 

 

This trade, happening after what--week 3? To eschew a player that started plenty of games and exceeded draft position because why exactly? 

 

Conflict? 

 

Being critical is not "belly aching". Having an overly simplistic perspective of "you don't like it, leave it" is not something that works for me. 

 

None of us truly know what happens behind the scenes. What we do know is that Brownlee had a fantastic game with the Jets. 

 

This franchise has a pattern of losing talent to other teams. We want new leadership to correct that pattern, not continue it. 

 

I do not want to see us continue to hemorrhage talent and watch the roster under perform and continue to widen the talent gap between us and other rosters. 

 

I am not sure how we fix this problem, but the idea of continuing to lose the guys that are playing well, and go on to see them play exceptionally well elsewhere is not the solution. 

 

 

[Callidus]

48 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

What is McCreary worth in trade compensation?

Likely not much. NBs tend to go for very little even when they are very good. Id guess a 5th on the high end. 

Edited October 17 by Callidus

[oldschool]

8 minutes ago, Grizz said:

 

Yes, and I disagree with this perspective. It is overly simplistic to me and knowing we had a coaching change perhaps there was opportunity to get things on board. 

 

This trade, happening after what--week 3? To eschew a player that started plenty of games and exceeded draft position because why exactly? 

 

Conflict? 

 

Being critical is not "belly aching". Having an overly simplistic perspective of "you don't like it, leave it" is not something that works for me. 

 

None of us truly know what happens behind the scenes. What we do know is that Brownlee had a fantastic game with the Jets. 

 

This franchise has a pattern of losing talent to other teams. We want new leadership to correct that pattern, not continue it. 

 

I do not want to see us continue to hemorrhage talent and watch the roster under perform and continue to widen the talent gap between us and other rosters. 

 

I am not sure how we fix this problem, but the idea of continuing to lose the guys that are playing well, and go on to see them play exceptionally well elsewhere is not the solution. 

 

 

 

Brownlee was committing back breaking penalties and getting lit up each game. He refused to do what the coaches asked and he wasn't drafted by Borgonzi. Moving on from him is a big fat nothing burger. Titans fans all in love with projects and JAGS far too often. Way more than other fan bases do

[OILERMAN]

8 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Likely not much. NBs tend to go for very little even when they are very good. Id guess a 5th on the high end. 

 

The value of nickels has sky rocketed the last few years. 

 

Chicago Bears' Kyler Gordon is the highest-paid nickel cornerback in the NFL after signing a three-year, $40 million extension. His deal surpassed previous high-water marks set by Jourdan Lewis and Taron Johnson, showing the rising market value for top slot defenders. 

 

Paying a premium for nickel corners is a relatively new trend in the NFL, driven by the increasing use of spread offenses that rely on the passing game. The list of record-breaking deals in just the last couple of years demonstrates how quickly the position's value is escalating.