ChesterCopperpot1 Posted Monday at 11:14 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:14 PM I think Prag just wants to believe there is some sort of McCoy Hive who will defend Mike McCoy to no end. That is all a figment of his imagination. No one here wants Mike McCoy. The guy is terrible, and we are all just trying to get through this season so everyone can move on in their own separate ways. oldschool, and Pragidealist 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Monday at 11:53 PM Report Share Posted Monday at 11:53 PM 46 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: BC should be thankful he even got this year to prove he was worth a damn. He should have been fired when Ran was fired. yes.. either he should have been fired then or not until the end of this season. Its' pretty simple Supernope, and oldschool 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted Tuesday at 04:43 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:43 AM 4 hours ago, Pragidealist said: yes.. either he should have been fired then or not until the end of this season. Its' pretty simple Criticize Amy for not firing him when she fired Ran then. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted Tuesday at 05:46 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 05:46 AM (edited) Hypothetical, if amy came out of the shadows and said on camera she wouldn't be so much as talking to Borgo and Brinker about anything team related till their contracts were up and they have full trusted autonomy, what would the feeling in the room be around here? I know this will never happen but i need something to fill my time till the trade deadline passes and i get to be disappointed again. Edited Tuesday at 05:48 AM by Callidus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:22 PM (edited) 11 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Criticize Amy for not firing him when she fired Ran then. Brinker and Borgonzi decided not to. The football ppl decided that. Then she needs to back their decision through the year. She couldn't do it. So the next head caoch will know the same. No matter what Brinker and Borgonzi say about Cam's development being first and that the new candidate will have time- it's not true. Bc we all know- once they lose- she'll fire them. So the next coach's directives (explicitly stated or implied) will be to win and minimize losses no matter what. If that means it slows Cam's development and slows the growth of talent in the org, then so be it. Run, run, punt and play defense. Being medicore and not losing too much is more important than building a winner. Hopefully brinker, Borgonzi and Cam can build a winner despite that but a long history with the Titans has me doubtful. The only optimism that this could be different is Cam. Cam is different than any qb we've had. We'll see. Edited Tuesday at 04:24 PM by Pragidealist Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Tuesday at 04:23 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:23 PM 10 hours ago, Callidus said: Hypothetical, if amy came out of the shadows and said on camera she wouldn't be so much as talking to Borgo and Brinker about anything team related till their contracts were up and they have full trusted autonomy, what would the feeling in the room be around here? I know this will never happen but i need something to fill my time till the trade deadline passes and i get to be disappointed again. I would call her a liar. Callidus, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted Tuesday at 04:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:28 PM poor prag... thinks an owner should never have oversight of the football people, ask questions, etc... rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted Tuesday at 04:38 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:38 PM (edited) Hiring Head coaches is similar to drafting a franchise QB. You just keep trying until you find THE guy. trend is hiring young, up and comers. No to the retreads and has beens. Edited Tuesday at 04:39 PM by freakingeek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted Tuesday at 04:40 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:40 PM 12 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: Brinker and Borgonzi decided not to. The football ppl decided that. Then she needs to back their decision through the year. She couldn't do it. So the next head caoch will know the same. No matter what Brinker and Borgonzi say about Cam's development being first and that the new candidate will have time- it's not true. Bc we all know- once they lose- she'll fire them. So the next coach's directives (explicitly stated or implied) will be to win and minimize losses no matter what. If that means it slows Cam's development and slows the growth of talent in the org, then so be it. Run, run, punt and play defense. Being medicore and not losing too much is more important than building a winner. Hopefully brinker, Borgonzi and Cam can build a winner despite that but a long history with the Titans has me doubtful. The only optimism that this could be different is Cam. Cam is different than any qb we've had. We'll see. Yes. You generally get fired when you lose, and when you look as lost as Cally did, you get fired quicker. The Broncos fired Hackett in less than one year. Was the owner being impatient there? No because he looked completely lost and in over his head. The Jags fired Meyer in less than one year. Was the owner being impatient there? No because he looked completely lost and in over his head. If Brinker and Borgonzi thought Callahan was the right man to lead this team, then I really question their football minds. A retarded chimp could see Cally had no clue what he was doing. Now, what I would like to see is Brinker and Borgonzi present a candidate they want to hire, Amy say yes, and then tell the 3 of them, y'all got 3 years to figure this shit out. Hopefully there is no need to get involved in that 3 years, but when the team was as bad as it was (not even factoring in the talent or lack thereof), then you have to make a move. Hopefully in that 3 years, no firings are made and at the end, Amy can assess and see if it is working. I really don't understand the crying over spilled milk for Brian Callahan. Every firing Amy has made has had merit, and the only one that could be view as reactionary/emotional is Robinson, which came on the heels of AJ Brown torching his old team. titanskick8851, IsntLifeFunny, and IowaOiler 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted Tuesday at 04:43 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:43 PM 1 minute ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Yes. You generally get fired when you lose, and when you look as lost as Cally did, you get fired quicker. The Broncos fired Hackett in less than one year. Was the owner being impatient there? No because he looked completely lost and in over his head. The Jags fired Meyer in less than one year. Was the owner being impatient there? No because he looked completely lost and in over his head. If Brinker and Borgonzi thought Callahan was the right man to lead this team, then I really question their football minds. A retarded chimp could see Cally had no clue what he was doing. Now, what I would like to see is Brinker and Borgonzi present a candidate they want to hire, Amy say yes, and then tell the 3 of them, y'all got 3 years to figure this shit out. Hopefully there is no need to get involved in that 3 years, but when the team was as bad as it was (not even factoring in the talent or lack thereof), then you have to make a move. Hopefully in that 3 years, no firings are made and at the end, Amy can assess and see if it is working. I really don't understand the crying over spilled milk for Brian Callahan. Every firing Amy has made has had merit, and the only one that could be view as reactionary/emotional is Robinson, which came on the heels of AJ Brown torching his old team. Because its a silly ass stance to take. OMG AAS fired callahan midseason so she sucks! She should have fired him before the season or after the season but not during it! Imagine taking this approach in business. OMG we can't fire that executive while we continue to fail because reasons! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted Tuesday at 04:52 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:52 PM 7 minutes ago, oldschool said: Because its a silly ass stance to take. OMG AAS fired callahan midseason so she sucks! She should have fired him before the season or after the season but not during it! Imagine taking this approach in business. OMG we can't fire that executive while we continue to fail because reasons! Stillman defended this on his show when it happened. He said to the people saying you can't keep firing people that you fire and hire until you get it right. If someone isn't working out, you replace that person with someone you think will get it done. Hopefully it works out, but some times, it doesn't. That's just life. SuperFreak90, and oldschool 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperFreak90 Posted Tuesday at 06:23 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:23 PM I thought Borgonzi wanted his guy as HC, after last year, and AAS shot it down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepingTitan Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:31 PM On 10/30/2025 at 7:39 AM, ctm said: “Saleh is the best signing we’ve ever had,” All-Pro tight end George Kittle said at his locker after Sunday’s victory over the Falcons. “I’ve been saying that since OTAs. It’s not just how smart he is, but his juice. He’s inspirational. He’s great in meetings. His energy is infectious, every single day. And he gets our young guys ready.” Added quarterback Brock Purdy: “Saleh brings a different kind of energy to the building, and he’s dialing it up. He’s really, really smart, and it’s helping us a lot.” “What I noticed during training camp is that yes, Saleh’s back, but his defense couldn’t be more different than when he was here before,” veteran fullback Kyle Juszczyk said. “It’s evolved so much. It’s not just ‘rush four and play Cover 3 behind it.’ He mixes up looks more, he disguises things and he blitzes more. And it’s totally working.” https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6734853/2025/10/24/robert-saleh-49ers-defensive-coordinator-jets-head-coach/ Apparently some of the offensive guys like him as well. They sold us RanCid pretty hard too DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Tuesday at 07:08 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:08 PM 2 hours ago, oldschool said: poor prag... thinks an owner should never have oversight of the football people, ask questions, etc... umm This was a question about whether she would give Brinker/Borganzi full autonomy. This had nothing to do with if she SHOULD have oversight. And oversight and ownership meddling are two different things. I simply said- I don't believe she would ever give them full autonomy. Apparently you agree? just with snark? (tbf that's on brand) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted Tuesday at 07:13 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 07:13 PM 2 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Yes. You generally get fired when you lose, and when you look as lost as Cally did, you get fired quicker. 2 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: Yes. You generally get fired when you lose, and when you look as lost as Cally did, you get fired quicker. The Broncos fired Hackett in less than one year. Was the owner being impatient there? No because he looked completely lost and in over his head. The Jags fired Meyer in less than one year. Was the owner being impatient there? No because he looked completely lost and in over his head. If Brinker and Borgonzi thought Callahan was the right man to lead this team, then I really question their football minds. A retarded chimp could see Cally had no clue what he was doing. Now, what I would like to see is Brinker and Borgonzi present a candidate they want to hire, Amy say yes, and then tell the 3 of them, y'all got 3 years to figure this shit out. Hopefully there is no need to get involved in that 3 years, but when the team was as bad as it was (not even factoring in the talent or lack thereof), then you have to make a move. Hopefully in that 3 years, no firings are made and at the end, Amy can assess and see if it is working. I really don't understand the crying over spilled milk for Brian Callahan. Every firing Amy has made has had merit, and the only one that could be view as reactionary/emotional is Robinson, which came on the heels of AJ Brown torching his old team. so for a very long time foreign car manufacturers ate American companies for lunch. The reason they did this was an overfocus and reactionary management to quarterly earnings over strategic and long term plans. TBC- What I am saying is that reacting to immediate pressure over longer term plans and strategies is bad business and bad management. That's the core principle of my complaint. It happens in business all the time. Executive level management overreacting to monthly or quarterly P&L's and not a) assessing the problems, designing both immediate and long term solutions and c) executing with disciplined and adaptive commitment. I am saying the Titans are a badly managed organization and Amy makes it harder bc she has no business discipline. She's reactionary. She's a billionaire though- she can make those mistakes without losing her shirt.. but her companies still struggle bc of it. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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