BudsOilers Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 Kraft hiring Vrabel last year had some optics that were bad whereas doing so this year is an easier sell. They had the Mayo ascension clause after BB and ignoring that would look awful PR and Rooney Rule wise (although what he did this year is more shameful) Getting rid of Belichick for Vrabel when they are so similar is a weird change whereas Mayo was fresh and unknown Mayo doing pretty badly in HC stuff and team record wise showed he was not ready but you can sell we tried Vrabel going to the Jets for NE is way too Parcells/Belichick stuff all over again. Kraft would die before seeing Vrabel succeed in NY while he was stuck with Mayo. Jamalisms, IsntLifeFunny, and Mythos27 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 14 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: The clause does not need to be binding to make the organization look horrible via Kraft showing that his word means nothing. Mayo is not just some guy. He's someone that played for a decade there, was raised in that organization as a coach, groomed for the job, and likely passed on promotions from other organizations based on Kraft's word. Your hands don't actually have to be physically tied up for you to feel that your hands are tied. You understand all of this perfectly well, you've just completely dug in and nothing short of Kraft himself saying it will do. Literally no one that actually works in or follows this market agrees with you on this. Now we finally agree. The optics would have been bad but let's be honest they are terrible now and no one cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 Vrabel was a harder hire to sell to fans last year. It was kind of Amy to pick such a shitty coach as his replacement and take care of that for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 Just now, TerryBoats said: Vrabel was a harder hire to sell to fans last year. It was kind of Amy to pick such a shitty coach as his replacement and take care of that for him You're an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, oldschool said: Now we finally agree. The optics would have been bad but let's be honest they are terrible now and no one cares. It would have been worse last year with meathead basically forcing his way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 1 hour ago, oldschool said: lol. Vrabel got everything he wanted.... Hard to deny that Vrabel actually carries himself like someone in a leadership position of an NFL team, while Callahan looks like the guy who feeds the fishes at Bass Pro Shop Number9, and Jamalisms 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 5 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: Hard to deny that Vrabel actually carries himself like someone in a leadership position of an NFL team, while Callahan looks like the guy who feeds the fishes at Bass Pro Shop Yep....your photo illustrates his leadership style perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, oldschool said: Now we finally agree. The optics would have been bad but let's be honest they are terrible now and no one cares. Now? I said this yesterday. This was Vrabel's job from jump and would've been last year. It's like your ex-wife getting engaged with a new guy days after she asked for a divorce. Yeah, technically you can't prove she was fucking him but you look ridiculous telling other people that lmao. Edited January 14, 2025 by Mythos27 IowaOiler, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaOiler Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 15 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Now? I said this yesterday. This was Vrabel's job from jump and would've been last year. It's like your ex-wife getting engaged with a new guy days after she asked for a divorce. Yeah, technically you can't prove she was fucking him but you look ridiculous telling other people that lmao. Let's keep @Jamalisms personal life out of this. OILERMAN, and ChesterCopperpot1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 27 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Now? I said this yesterday. This was Vrabel's job from jump and would've been last year. It's like your ex-wife getting engaged with a new guy days after she asked for a divorce. Yeah, technically you can't prove she was fucking him but you look ridiculous telling other people that lmao. Dude what are you claiming I said now? Lol. All I said was that they could have easily hired vrabel last year. Are you referring to the Ben Johnson thing? My comment on that was based on the fact Johnson took the interview but it's safe to say it didn't matter. I agree it was always vrabel's job. They probably interviewed Johnson as a way to claim the hiring process was legit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 2 hours ago, oldschool said: Dude what are you claiming I said now? Lol. All I said was that they could have easily hired vrabel last year. Are you referring to the Ben Johnson thing? My comment on that was based on the fact Johnson took the interview but it's safe to say it didn't matter. I agree it was always vrabel's job. They probably interviewed Johnson as a way to claim the hiring process was legit. I said that Vrabel being available this year affected Mayo's firing. You disagreed and said that if his availability was a factor they would have hired Vrabel instead. I brought up the contract language as part of the reason they stuck with Mayo. You essentially said it had 0 impact and that it had no reason for why Vrabel didn't end up last season. You keep insisting that Vrabel's availability had no effect on the Pats moving on from Mayo so quickly and that goes against pretty much everything we've seen and has been reported. Number9, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted January 14, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 Vrabel magically turned into a good coach the week Tannehill stepped in as the starter. The team was 2-4 before that. Vrabel had a losing record before that. Anyone that watched camp and preseason that year could see Tannehill was very good. He came in the first preseason game and looked great. Vrabel didn't develop or turn Tannehill into that, Tannehill looked like that from the very start. If Drake Maye turns into a good QB then Vrabel will be a "good coach" The real mistake wasn't the Titans fired Mike Vrabel. The real mistake was hiring him over LaFluer. IowaOiler, tgo, BudsOilers, and 11 others 13 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted January 14, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 8 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Vrabel magically turned into a good coach the week Tannehill stepped in as the starter. The team was 2-4 before that. Vrabel had a losing record before that. Anyone that watched camp and preseason that year could see Tannehill was very good. He came in the first preseason game and looked great. Vrabel didn't develop or turn Tannehill into that, Tannehill looked like that from the very start. If Drake Maye turns into a good QB then Vrabel will be a "good coach" The real mistake wasn't the Titans fired Mike Vrabel. The real mistake was hiring him over LaFluer. I can't think of another coach that's accomplished as little as Vrabel but is held up as some amazing HC. rns90, IowaOiler, ChesterCopperpot1, and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 6 minutes ago, oldschool said: I can't think of another coach that's accomplished as little as Vrabel but is held up as some amazing HC. His hand in personnel, the staff's he's assembled and his playoff strategy/results are horrible. It's all about image. He's a big strong alpha male and looks the part. oldschool, IowaOiler, AvgJoe, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 14, 2025 Report Share Posted January 14, 2025 (edited) Lol lol lol Jackson is about to be a 3 time MVP. Saying Henry is the best player in Baltimore is insane. https://x.com/ezlazar/status/1879156843387424983?t=BiJbP5cUjY0fzg0CtnMG7g&s=19 Edited January 14, 2025 by oldschool IsntLifeFunny, OILERMAN, rns90, and 2 others 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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