Cam Ward

[Pragidealist]

5 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Idk if i would call that heroic. 

 

Signed a bill inresponse to covid and inflation. Thats jist him signing congressional work. 

 

Signed another bill, again, just signing something. 

 

Proposed the build it back better act. Ok, now he did something, however it didnt all get passed and they dont say anything on what it was. 

 

Appointed someone to the supream court, said the same for trump but that he appointed multiple and didnt list names. 

 

Reentered the paris agreement, same as what it said for trump but backwards. 

 

"Biden oversaw the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops that ended the war in Afghanistan, leading to the Taliban seizing control." - Idk who would say this sounds heroic. 

 

Responded to a war by sending aid to an ally, normal stuff. 

 

Condemed hamas and supported Israel, sent some aid. Hardly a ringing endorsement of what was done. Just facts and a small shot at him not sending enough aid if you want to read it that way. 

 

Signed a crappy cease-fire as he left office that did nothing. 

 

What are you trying to read into as some grand love fest for biden? This is about as a bland list of things as the man himself. 

Sorry I missed the premise here-  are we arguing if Biden was a better president the Cam would be a better qb right now?  Ok... fire him!  oh wait... did that. Fire Trump for Cam Ward's future!  

 

I can get behind that. 

[Callidus]

4 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

Sorry I missed the premise here-  are we arguing if Biden was a better president the Cam would be a better qb right now?  Ok... fire him!  oh wait... did that. Fire Trump for Cam Ward's future!  

 

I can get behind that. 

Its not even who was the better president. He is trying to say Wikipedia is pro biden and anti trump. 

 

Nice work on the get back on topic joke though.  

[TerryBoats]

Just now, Callidus said:

Its not even who was the better president. He is trying to say Wikipedia is pro biden and anti trump. 

 

Nice work on the get back on topic joke though.  

Maybe you are dumb.  Which is fine.  But if you're pretending to be retarded by not noticing the difference in the content between the two presidents - what they included, what they excluded, etc. - in order to simp for a bunch of politicians, that's just sad.

 

Amazing how in Biden's Wiki, they didn't include his DOJ prosecuting  a bunch of old people - including a Holocaust Concentration Camp survivor - and sentencing some to years in prison for praying in front of an abortion clinic, attempting to throw his main political opponent in prison, the record high illegal immigration, his opposition to desegregation in which he claimed he didn't want his kids growing up on a "racial jungle", the mishandling of classified documents, the rape accusations, and many other facts which are in the same spirit of Trump's entry and could have easily  been included.  Just a boring, regular old politician.  While for some reason, those things were necessary for Trump.  I wonder why!

 

 

[NashvilleNinja]

20 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

Sorry I missed the premise here-  are we arguing if Biden was a better president the Cam would be a better qb right now?  Ok... fire him!  oh wait... did that. Fire Trump for Cam Ward's future!  

 

I can get behind that. 

 

I blame the Titans for this spelunkery into politics. FIRE CALLAHAN! Oh wait... did that. FIRE BRINKER for Mike Bogonzi's future!

 

I can get behind that.

[Callidus]

19 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

Maybe you are dumb.  Which is fine.  But if you're pretending to be retarded by not noticing the difference in the content between the two presidents - what they included, what they excluded, etc. - in order to simp for a bunch of politicians, that's just sad.

 

Amazing how in Biden's Wiki, they didn't include his DOJ prosecuting  a bunch of old people - including a Holocaust Concentration Camp survivor - and sentencing some to years in prison for praying in front of an abortion clinic, attempting to throw his main political opponent in prison, the record high illegal immigration, his opposition to desegregation in which he claimed he didn't want his kids growing up on a "racial jungle", the mishandling of classified documents, the rape accusations, and many other facts which are in the same spirit of Trump's entry and could have easily  been included.  Just a boring, regular old politician.  While for some reason, those things were necessary for Trump.  I wonder why!

 

 

All i have to go on is what was in the text. You asked people to analyze it. I did. If I did it for the trump list from a pro trump point of view I would assume its a list of mostly positives. Obviously each person has different views on each individual thing but he did alot of stuff people wanted. I have tslked to plenty of people who said taking kids away from their parents at the boarder was a good thing. To me thats insane, but they thought it was a fantastic way to deter people. 

 

Ill leave it at that. 

[TerryBoats]

2 minutes ago, Callidus said:

All i have to go on is what was in the text. You asked people to analyze it. I did. If I did it for the trump list from a pro trump point of view I would assume its a list of mostly positives. Obviously each person has different views on each individual thing but he did alot of stuff people wanted. I have tslked to plenty of people who said taking kids away from their parents at the boarder was a good thing. To me thats insane, but they thought it was a fantastic way to deter people. 

 

Ill leave it at that. 

"Taking away kids from their parents at the border" is a largely biased and low IQ account of what happened, as DNA tests proved that tens of thousands of children weren't even related to the people with whom they were traveling and were subjected to human trafficking,   thereby justifying the policy.  And it's nothing compared to the way the last administration treated undocumented children, which was somehow omitted from the Wiki as well:

 

"The audit found that between 2019 and 2023, ICE transferred more than 448,000 unaccompanied children to the Department of Health and Human Services. After the children were released from the department's custody, ICE struggled to track the whereabouts of many of them. During this period, more than 32,000 children missed scheduled immigration court hearings, and ICE was unable to determine their locations."

[Somedude]

Only a person with a micro cheeto dick in their mouth would bring up Trump in a topic about Cam Ward. 

[ctm]

19 hours ago, TerryBoats said:

 

Look at the second paragraph of the entries for Biden and Trump and say everything that you just said about Wikipedia with a straight face.  

 

"As president, Biden signed the American Rescue Plan Act in response to the COVID-19 pandemic and subsequent recession. He signed bipartisan bills on infrastructure and manufacturing. Biden proposed the Build Back Better Act, aspects of which were incorporated into the Inflation Reduction Act that he signed into law in 2022. He appointed Ketanji Brown Jackson to the Supreme Court of the United States. In his foreign policy, the U.S. reentered the Paris Agreement and enacted the New Atlantic Charter. Biden oversaw the complete withdrawal of U.S. troops that ended the war in Afghanistan, leading to the Taliban seizing control. He responded to the Russian invasion of Ukraine by imposing sanctions on Russia and authorizing aid to Ukraine. During the Gaza war, Biden condemned the actions of Hamas as terrorism, strongly supported Israel, and sent limited humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip. A temporary ceasefire proposal he backed was adopted shortly before his presidency ended."

 

"During his first presidency, Trump imposed a travel ban on seven Muslim-majority countries, expanded the Mexico–United States border wall, and enforced a family separation policy on the border. He rolled back environmental and business regulations, signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and appointed three Supreme Court justices. In foreign policy, Trump withdrew the U.S. from agreements on climate, trade, and Iran's nuclear program, and initiated a trade war with China. In response to the COVID-19 pandemic from 2020, he downplayed its severity, contradicted health officials, and signed the CARES Act. After losing the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden, Trump attempted to overturn the result, culminating in the January 6 Capitol attack in 2021. He was impeached in 2019 for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, and in 2021 for incitement of insurrection; the Senate acquitted him both times."

 

Take it to the other forum where it belongs.

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[Somedude]

Who?

[titanruss]

23 hours ago, Titandan said:

I'm a cuck for checking out a new website that rivals Wikipedia?

 

rivals.. hah. .. so sweet, like a 3 year old in their bedroom playing house. 

[titanruss]

6 hours ago, TerryBoats said:

I was waiting on the other guy to reply, but maybe you can look at this entry which begins in the second main paragraph - the general overview, not any subsection - of Donald Trump's Wikipedia entry and explain how this qualifies as "bipartisan":

 

"During his first presidency, Trump imposed a travel ban on seven Muslim-majority countries, expanded the Mexico–United States border wall, and enforced a family separation policy on the border. He rolled back environmental and business regulations, signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and appointed three Supreme Court justices. In foreign policy, Trump withdrew the U.S. from agreements on climate, trade, and Iran's nuclear program, and initiated a trade war with China. In response to the COVID-19 pandemic from 2020, he downplayed its severity, contradicted health officials, and signed the CARES Act. After losing the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden, Trump attempted to overturn the result, culminating in the January 6 Capitol attack in 2021. He was impeached in 2019 for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, and in 2021 for incitement of insurrection; the Senate acquitted him both times.

 

In 2023, Trump was found liable in civil cases for sexual abuse and defamation and for business fraud. He was found guilty of falsifying business records in 2024, making him the first U.S. president convicted of a felony. After winning the 2024 presidential election against Kamala Harris, he was sentenced to a penalty-free discharge, and two felony indictments against him for retention of classified documents and obstruction of the 2020 election were dismissed without prejudice. A racketeering case related to the 2020 election in Georgia is pending.

 

Trump began his second presidency by initiating mass layoffs of federal workers. He imposed tariffs on nearly all countries at the highest level since the Great Depression and signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. His administration's actions—including intimidation of political opponents and civil society, reversal of pro-diversity policies, targeting of transgender people, deportations of immigrants, extensive use of executive orders, and his broad interpretation of the unitary executive theory—have drawn over 300 lawsuits challenging the legality and constitutionality of the actions.

 

Since 2015, Trump's leadership style and political agenda—often referred to as Trumpism—have reshaped the Republican Party's identity. Many of his comments and actions have been characterized as racist or misogynistic, and he has made false or misleading statements and promoted conspiracy theories to a degree unprecedented in American politics. Trump's actions, especially in his second term, have been described as authoritarian and contributing to democratic backsliding. After his first term, scholars and historians ranked him as one of the worst presidents in American history."

 

 

Whats your issue? That's a list of events that occurred. You were there and discussing each issue here.

It sounds bad.. because it is bad. Truth hurts eh?

I highlighted the parts that are opinions rather than straight facts. 

 

This isnt a book report from 3rd grade or a eulogy or a dedication. Its a listing of facts. You want a neutral site to suck him off? 

[OILERMAN]

Cosell very high on Ward this week

 

 

[Number9]

8 hours ago, TerryBoats said:

I was waiting on the other guy to reply, but maybe you can look at this entry which begins in the second main paragraph - the general overview, not any subsection - of Donald Trump's Wikipedia entry and explain how this qualifies as "bipartisan":

 

"During his first presidency, Trump imposed a travel ban on seven Muslim-majority countries, expanded the Mexico–United States border wall, and enforced a family separation policy on the border. He rolled back environmental and business regulations, signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, and appointed three Supreme Court justices. In foreign policy, Trump withdrew the U.S. from agreements on climate, trade, and Iran's nuclear program, and initiated a trade war with China. In response to the COVID-19 pandemic from 2020, he downplayed its severity, contradicted health officials, and signed the CARES Act. After losing the 2020 presidential election to Joe Biden, Trump attempted to overturn the result, culminating in the January 6 Capitol attack in 2021. He was impeached in 2019 for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress, and in 2021 for incitement of insurrection; the Senate acquitted him both times.

 

In 2023, Trump was found liable in civil cases for sexual abuse and defamation and for business fraud. He was found guilty of falsifying business records in 2024, making him the first U.S. president convicted of a felony. After winning the 2024 presidential election against Kamala Harris, he was sentenced to a penalty-free discharge, and two felony indictments against him for retention of classified documents and obstruction of the 2020 election were dismissed without prejudice. A racketeering case related to the 2020 election in Georgia is pending.

 

Trump began his second presidency by initiating mass layoffs of federal workers. He imposed tariffs on nearly all countries at the highest level since the Great Depression and signed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. His administration's actions—including intimidation of political opponents and civil society, reversal of pro-diversity policies, targeting of transgender people, deportations of immigrants, extensive use of executive orders, and his broad interpretation of the unitary executive theory—have drawn over 300 lawsuits challenging the legality and constitutionality of the actions.

 

Since 2015, Trump's leadership style and political agenda—often referred to as Trumpism—have reshaped the Republican Party's identity. Many of his comments and actions have been characterized as racist or misogynistic, and he has made false or misleading statements and promoted conspiracy theories to a degree unprecedented in American politics. Trump's actions, especially in his second term, have been described as authoritarian and contributing to democratic backsliding. After his first term, scholars and historians ranked him as one of the worst presidents in American history."

u shud talk football only.  this man said the black people in Springfield are eating dogs and cats.  don't be a part of indecency.  if you are, don't go blabbing the bullshit.

 

[japan]

22 hours ago, Pragidealist said:

Sorry I missed the premise here-  are we arguing if Biden was a better president the Cam would be a better qb right now?  Ok... fire him!  oh wait... did that. Fire Trump for Cam Ward's future!  

 

I can get behind that. 

Prag still thinking we didn't give Callahan enough time...