Titans WIN race for the 1st overall pick

[oldschool]

8 minutes ago, TheBukafax said:

Do you guys remember before the SB Bill Callahans centre went and killed himself before the game?

 

no he didn't. He went awol. Barret right? Bipolar mofo.

[rns90]

34 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

If this continues for the rest of the season the Panthers are ensuring they are getting that #1 pick.

 

 

 

 

It’s a shame we don’t play the Panthers this year .  It would be a true shitty toilet bowl game.

[Pragidealist]

3 minutes ago, rns90 said:

No he didn’t.  That was Taylor more than him.  That’s like giving credit to Bienemy for the Chiefs credit when Reid had a bigger hand.

 

He was the offensive coordinator- not the qb coach, opponent analyst.  These guys are managers of processes, manager of men who do different parts of the job.  The head coach is managing coordinators-  they are not drawing up plays, sitting in meeting rooms teach the plays, and then showing up on Sundays.   Sometimes I think ppl have fundamentally different understanding of these jobs. 

 

These guys are not your high school coaches -  They are managers in a professional organization.  

 

Yes play calling on game day and game day situations are important but they are not the biggest part of the job. They are just the most visible. 

[Pragidealist]

Anyway- all of that is moot-  Vrabel won 2 playoff games in 6 years.  He's a bad coach.  We'll see where BC is after he's been a headcoach for a bit. 

[NashvilleNinja]

2 hours ago, Pragidealist said:

It's really not when you accept that they don't have the talent.  Bc it means that they can gameplan well and take teams by surprise to be competitive when the other team doesn't know what they are going to do.  

 

But once the team adapts-  the Titans don't have the personnel to compete straight up on their merits.   Its actually, imo- a sign of a strong staff in this case.  

 

This is especially true when you acknowledge all of the TO and ST failures that are hurting them.  Those are player and personnel problems.. not tactics, strategies, playcalling, etc.  

 

(well maybe ST- and that is a place ppl can question pretty freely)  

 

Really good points made here. Callahan doesn't come off as dumb or a meathead so the idea that he just plain sucks at strategy doesn't compute. And those player/personnel problems? Well, we know where most of the blame can go for that.

 

It's a red shirt year.

[rns90]

2 minutes ago, Pragidealist said:

 

He was the offensive coordinator- not the qb coach, opponent analyst.  These guys are managers of processes, manager of men who do different parts of the job.  The head coach is managing coordinators-  they are not drawing up plays, sitting in meeting rooms teach the plays, and then showing up on Sundays.   Sometimes I think ppl have fundamentally different understanding of these jobs. 

 

These guys are not your high school coaches -  They are managers in a professional organization.  

 

Yes play calling on game day and game day situations are important but they are not the biggest part of the job. They are just the most visible. 

You keep on treating this like it’s a business and it’s not really run like that.

And as far as that first paragraph about coaches sitting in meeting rooms and going over plays, yes that happens in the NFL.

 

And playcalling is the difference between winning and losing and if you are going to minimize that aspect , I really don’t know what to say.

[AussieTitanFan08]

PK is really on his tanking crusade today he asked Simmons his thought on it today after doing the same with Callahan.

[NashvilleNinja]

48 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

If this continues for the rest of the season the Panthers are ensuring they are getting that #1 pick.

 

 

 

 

 

Greedy bastards.

[Nash]

IIRC, most of us wanted an offensive guru as HC, because if it was a defensive guy, our OC would leave every 2 years.. we wanted stability at the OC position going forward.. 

Secondly, the talent level is depleted, the Titans barely have an oline and don't have a real RT, their receivers are Ridley, Jackson, NWI, and a host of practice squad players although I do have my fingers crossed about Oliver being a reasonable depth player..they have TE's in development, but don't have a power back for short yardage that I can tell

Third, if the starters are largely developmental, what does that make the special teams players..

Fourth, new systems, new players, new coaches, everything is developmental right now

Edited October 30, 2024 by Nash

[BudsOilers]

Play calling and more importantly situational play calling in the heat of the moment is absolutely critical and arguably more impactful than the "plan" they came up with during the week.

 

Callahan has not been good situationally but it's early.

[IrishTitansFan]

7 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

Play calling and more importantly situational play calling in the heat of the moment is absolutely critical and arguably more impactful than the "plan" they came up with during the week.

 

Callahan has not been good situationally but it's early.

Great point and the interesting thing is you can actually see why it’s bad - he’s far too emotional on the sideline. He spends a lot of time arguing with the refs or celebrating successful plays for a play caller 

[titanruss]

21 hours ago, BudsOilers said:

Wrong again.  I said he had monster games vs the Jags and Giants but aside from that, the other games late in 2018 and early 2019 were ordinary.  It was only in 2019 after the QB change that he took off and was consistently producing elite numbers.  That's the fact of what happened.

 

After the Jags game in 2018, he played another 9 games, including the big Giants game where he was 33 carries for 170 yards.  183 carries for 763 yards and 7 YD.  4.2 YPC. 84 YPG.

 

The 9 games Henry played in 2019 after the QB switch:  190 carries for 1124 yards and 12 TD.  5.9 YPC.  124.8 YPG.

 

I think you can shut up now....

 

 

 

 

 I dont think you know what ordinary is... His stats (that you continue to cherry pick while saying i'm cherry picking) from the jags game until RT starter were elite.

 

You also seem to have this weird idea that anyone believes he didnt produce more after the switch. No one said that... but that strawman you keep building is just proving you more and more wrong on the original argument. Or showing your reading comprehension. Pick your loss.

 

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[TerryBoats]

2 minutes ago, IrishTitansFan said:

Great point and the interesting thing is you can actually see why it’s bad - he’s far too emotional on the sideline. He spends a lot of time arguing with the refs or celebrating successful plays for a play caller 

Just like when he got on the play field and screamed at Levis after that fumble.  Embarrassing moment for him and this team.

[TheBukafax]

47 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

no he didn't. He went awol. Barret right? Bipolar mofo.

Idk why I thought he killed himself instead of just missing that game.

[BudsOilers]

2 minutes ago, titanruss said:

 

 I dont think you know what ordinary is... His stats (that you continue to cherry pick while saying i'm cherry picking) from the jags game until RT starter were elite.

 

You also seem to have this weird idea that anyone believes he didnt produce more after the switch. No one said that... but that strawman you keep building is just proving you more and more wrong on the original argument. Or showing your reading comprehension. Pick your loss.

Wrong.  You simply have no concept of small sampling requires context.  He had 2 monster games that accounted for 408 yards and 8.2 YPC and 6 rushing TD.   

 

In the next 8 games before the QB change, he produced a 593 yards, 4.0 YPC, and 5 rushing TD.  Solid.  Not elite.  

 

 

And of course even dullards know Henry produced a lot more from mid 2019 on aside from a 2 or 3 games out of his first 50+ games of his career.  In fact, from 2016 until mid 2019, he had 5 games over 100 yards rushing (the 3 games I referenced) plus two in 2017 where he broke runs of 72 and 75 runs with less than a minute left when the Titans were running the clock out)......