oldschool Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Hogan is the likely 3rd candidate imo. Governor of a blue state for 8by3ars with a reputation for being a moderate. He'll either siphon off non Maga voters right away and create a lane for himself or He'll flame out while the establishment backs DeSantis who appears to have the support of right wing media and the big donors. The key with DeSantis is that he's not charismatic, is extreme, and doesn't appear to do well outside of scripted events. Will that be enough to turn off voters? Will he be considered the only one who can defeat Trump? My money is still on Trump winning the nomination. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ctm Posted November 15, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Republican politicians and associated committees are sending out desperate fundraising emails begging the GOP faithful to help save America by getting behind Herschel Walker in his Dec. 6 runoff race against Georgia Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock. "We need everyone focused on winning the Georgia Senate race, and deceptive fundraising tactics by teams that just won their races are siphoning money away from Georgia,” Walker campaign manager Scott Paradise told NBC News on Monday. The campaign said it first noticed the problem on Saturday when former President Donald Trump’s Save America sent out an email that asked prospective donors to “contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to the Official Georgia Runoff Fundraising Goal and increase your impact by 1200%” But if donors didn’t see a link that says “click here for details or to edit allocation,” they would not have noticed that 90 percent of their contribution automatically went to Trump, with the remaining 10 percent going to Walker. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/walker-s-campaign-tells-republicans-to-stop-deceptive-fundraising-in-georgia-runoff/ar-AA146FQo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=837989807ebd4a43a81aec797bda6c4a 0 oldschool, MadMax, titanruss, and 8 others 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, ctm said: Republican politicians and associated committees are sending out desperate fundraising emails begging the GOP faithful to help save America by getting behind Herschel Walker in his Dec. 6 runoff race against Georgia Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock. "We need everyone focused on winning the Georgia Senate race, and deceptive fundraising tactics by teams that just won their races are siphoning money away from Georgia,” Walker campaign manager Scott Paradise told NBC News on Monday. The campaign said it first noticed the problem on Saturday when former President Donald Trump’s Save America sent out an email that asked prospective donors to “contribute ANY AMOUNT IMMEDIATELY to the Official Georgia Runoff Fundraising Goal and increase your impact by 1200%” But if donors didn’t see a link that says “click here for details or to edit allocation,” they would not have noticed that 90 percent of their contribution automatically went to Trump, with the remaining 10 percent going to Walker. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/walker-s-campaign-tells-republicans-to-stop-deceptive-fundraising-in-georgia-runoff/ar-AA146FQo?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=837989807ebd4a43a81aec797bda6c4a 0 They have been scaming voters for 6 years. It's pathetic. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschool said: My money is still on Trump winning the nomination. I think Fox and right wing media could take Trump down before and during the primaries. They've already started really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, OILERMAN said: I think Fox and right wing media could take Trump down before and during the primaries. They've already started really. They did the same after Jan 6th and then they started losing viewers and pivoted back. I agree if they stay with DeSantis it will likely kill Trumps chances. begooode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschool said: They have been scaming voters for 6 years. It's pathetic. The El Guapo's of the world are easy marks. Angry, misinformed and gullible WG53, MadMax, Come on Titans, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 1 minute ago, oldschool said: They did the same after Jan 6th and then they started losing viewers and pivoted back. I agree if they stay with DeSantis it will likely kill Trumps chances. Trump himself is more unhinged than ever and his act is thin and even pathetic, he'll do himself no favors either begooode, oldschool, and MadMax 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: I think Fox and right wing media could take Trump down before and during the primaries. They've already started really. Who will the GOP big money donors support? Follow the money. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, ctm said: Who will the GOP big money donors support? Follow the money. Do you not know? Who will they support? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 3 hours ago, oldschool said: They did the same after Jan 6th and then they started losing viewers and pivoted back. I agree if they stay with DeSantis it will likely kill Trumps chances. The 360 from Fox after the relatively early call for AZ in 2020, to come full circle back to Trump and then some by amplifying the election fraud hoax is one of the supporting factors in the ongoing defamation case Dominion and Smartmatic. Interesting to see if the discovery phase sheds light on anything here. Murdoch has rightly always considered Trump a fool. The publicity of well-presented Jan6 hearings broke the bubble for the nontribal voters, and along with Trump's defenseless top secrets doc case, the Australian is ready to move his media/propaganda empire forward to DeSantis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Trump still up in more a more credible poll IsntLifeFunny, OILERMAN, and begooode 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 Trump allies are going hard at trying to shift blame to McConnell. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 One of the big negatives on DeSantis is that he actually is very extreme platform wise. Trump will say whatever he thinks the masses want to hear but DeSantis is an ideologue. Can DeSantis sell his flavor of extremism on a National scale? I also think the Dem opponent in 2024 will be a huge factor. I think Trump or DeSantis would have a shot to beat a Newsome or Harris. Not sure the Dems should even consider running someone from CA; Maybe even Biden if he looks old and frail at 82. The Dems should consider running someone like Whitmer but is there anyone else that fits a similar mold? The 2024 cycle is about to kick off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) https://politicalwire.com/2022/11/15/murdoch-tells-trump-he-will-not-back-new-bid/ Murdoch Tells Trump He Will Not Back New Bid Rupert Murdoch has “warned Donald Trump his media empire will not back any attempt to return to the White House,” The Guardian reports. Said a senior News Corp. source: “We have been clear with Donald. There have been conversations between them during which Rupert made it clear to Donald that we cannot back another run for the White House.” Edited November 15, 2022 by reo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted November 15, 2022 Report Share Posted November 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, reo said: Said a senior News Corp. source: “We have been clear with Donald. There have been conversations between them during which Rupert made it clear to Donald that we cannot back another run for the White House.” "There have been conversations" , given the reach and MO of FoxNews and its even sketchier tributaries, how is this okay? chef 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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