Popular Post tgo Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mythos27 said: Blaming Lafluer is stupid. He did the best he could with the shit-sandwich OL he was given and helped make them functional by year's end. I'm sure he made his share of mistakes as a play-caller but that's to be expected given it was his first season doing it. I don't even blaming him for forcing Dion Lewis as long as he did, even I was having trouble believing he was playing that badly and thought he'd eventually figure it out. To be clear, I'm not blaming LaFleur for the issues statistically and otherwise with the offense last year. There was a natural learning curve going to the zone scheme, and obviously he had to deal with Mariota's struggles and the swath of injuries. Just pointing out that there was some friction there and that Smith has some mixed feelings about MLF. I have no doubt LaFleur was great with the x's and o's conceptually and schematically, but Smith may be better when it comes to individual matchups and flexibility and understanding the players' perspective and such. I do think that Smith will have the edge when it comes to intangible factors and preaching physicality over finessee, as this is a very emotionally intelligent group and probably more sensitive to certain factors when it comes to messaging. Edited June 5, 2019 by tgo NashvilleNinja, Justafan, Huston, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: See what we have in what? In Tannehill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 What vision did Vrabel have that wasn't aligned with LaFluer? He's not Jeff Fisher. He played with Tom Brady. Prior to the season, he was vocal about his desire for Mariota to be more aggressive. He seems to want to be aggressive in general, judging by his 4th down attempts. Are people suggesting that he wanted a dinosaur offense after hiring an OC to get them away from one? I don't understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 hours ago, tgo said: To be clear, I'm not blaming LaFleur for the issues statistically and otherwise with the offense last year. There was a natural learning curve going to the zone scheme, and obviously he had to deal with Mariota's struggles and the swath of injuries. Just pointing out that there was some friction there and that Smith has some mixed feelings about MLF. I have no doubt LaFleur was great with the x's and o's conceptually and schematically, but Smith may be better when it comes to individual matchups and flexibility and understanding the players' perspective and such. I do think that Smith will have the edge when it comes to intangible factors and preaching physicality over finessee, as this is a very emotionally intelligent group and probably more sensitive to certain factors when it comes to messaging. I didn't think you were doing that and I haven't seen anyone of note do this on this board. titanruss, Justafan, and tgo 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 I like Smith's personality, his relationships with the core guys here (more than other coaches on this staff due to longevity), and the fact he's been in multiple systems to pull from. He still has to do it but I think he'll rise up. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 On 6/4/2019 at 10:03 AM, NashvilleNinja said: You can tell within the first couple of minutes how different Smith is from LaFleur. I guess being hardheaded and stuck in your ways isn't limited to just country bumpkin types like Robiskie. Educated, articulate-sounding folks can be just as stuck. Good luck with that in Green Bay, Matt. Hopefully Smith will turn out to be a good cross between "bumpkin" and "educated". Turron recently reported that Smith is an intense & detailed coach who has gotten on players for running proper routes & other fundamentals. So, given his approach plus his "flexible" mind-set...I think he will be everything we, as fans, expected from LaFleur and a whole lot more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Oman trying to create controversy where there is none. "See? Told ya the rubes would turn on ML. 'Everybody' knows what *the real problem* is." Yeah... *silly people looking for a horse to kill so they can beat it like it's a dick. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 I listened to an interview with Jonnu Smith, and he mentioned how A Smith pushed and motivated him after struggling initially last year. He's got the makeup to be a great coach. I hope that he's good with the Xs and Os. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huston Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 41 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Oman trying to create controversy where there is none. "See? Told ya the rubes would turn on ML. 'Everybody' knows what *the real problem* is." Yeah... *silly people looking for a horse to kill so they can beat it like it's a dick. I honestly think he is being serious when people think he's trolling most of the time. EagleEye, and titanruss 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Huston said: I honestly think he is being serious when people think he's trolling most of the time. He's being trollious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 5, 2019 Report Share Posted June 5, 2019 Y’all don’t know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 I’ve said it before: when a handful of isolated players struggle or play poorly, that’s on them. But when an entire position group (or multiple groups) play poorly....that’s an indictment of the coaching. The offense was straight garbage for much of the 2018 season...especially before the bye week. In weeks 1-7, they were equally inconsistent/ineffective in both the run game and the passing game. Things improved across the post-bye...but for the first several weeks, not a single member of the offense played anywhere close to an acceptable level. We can blame the players all we want for a lack of execution...but when every single member of the offense plays poorly, that speaks directly to the performance of the coaching staff . AvgJoe, Huston, tgo, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, nine said: I’ve said it before: when a handful of isolated players struggle or play poorly, that’s on them. But when an entire position group (or multiple groups) play poorly....that’s an indictment of the coaching. The offense was straight garbage for much of the 2018 season...especially before the bye week. In weeks 1-7, they were equally inconsistent/ineffective in both the run game and the passing game. Things improved across the post-bye...but for the first several weeks, not a single member of the offense played anywhere close to an acceptable level. We can blame the players all we want for a lack of execution...but when every single member of the offense plays poorly, that speaks directly to the performance of the coaching staff . Replace Vrabel? japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 5 hours ago, Huston said: I honestly think he is being serious when people think he's trolling most of the time. he is being serious. but he'll type it in a way that he can say he was joking at a later date. he's been doing it for years. TitanDuckFan, and Huston 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenIsLegend Posted June 6, 2019 Report Share Posted June 6, 2019 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Replace Vrabel? We no longer have MLF and it was the offense mostly sputtering.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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