titanruss Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: https://www.aei.org/articles/blame-barack-obama-not-donald-trump-for-rise-of-isis/ https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state So a neoconservative think tank article... bogus. ....and a Wilson center article you didnt actually read that doesnt praise Trump nor blame Obama... but accurately reports a timeline of event. great! Where was this new plan Trump rolled out? Or... possibly just like the economy... He rode Obamas coattails and claimed victory on his own. MadMax 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, titanruss said: So a neoconservative think tank article... bogus. ....and a Wilson center article you didnt actually read that doesnt praise Trump nor blame Obama... but accurately reports a timeline of event. great! Where was this new plan Trump rolled out? Or... possibly just like the economy... He rode Obamas coattails and claimed victory on his own. https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2017/10/03/mattis-reveals-new-rules-of-engagement/ Oct 2017, Rules of engagement changed. Mar 2019, ISIS caliphate gone. Edited September 17, 2020 by LongTimeFan corrected end date that Trump cleaned up Obama's mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nine Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 The ISIS stuff is a nice diversion tactic to redirect discussion away from the topic at hand. Donald Trump is a bumbling, incompetent idiot whose asinine myopia and corrupt, inept leadership are a threat to American society as we know it. Someone prove me wrong......PLEASE. Stranger, scine09, chef, and 9 others 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PetroleroTitanico Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Herd mentality! 'Nator, ChemEngr79, 1yardshort, and 2 others 2 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, nine said: The ISIS stuff is a nice diversion tactic to redirect discussion away from the topic at hand. Donald Trump is a bumbling, incompetent idiot whose asinine myopia and corrupt, inept leadership are a threat to American society as we know it. Someone prove me wrong......PLEASE. Quit beating around the bush, what do you really think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted September 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, LongTimeFan said: https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2017/10/03/mattis-reveals-new-rules-of-engagement/ Oct 2017, Rules of engagement changed. Dec 2017, ISIS caliphate gone. Yeah this is fucking retarded. I posted about 5 news stories from Obama's tenure, 3 or so years ago, all reporting the imminent demise of ISIS. Same with the Economy, first Trump says it is a fake bubble and a few months later he is touting the exact same numbers, this time "I have defeated the ISIS caliphate!". BTW he says the words "caliphate" every time, like he's super impressed with that word for some reason. I found my post from 2017 Quote Anyone keeping up over the past two years knows ISIS has been losing their grip and taking major ass-whippings. 2016 was a particularly terrible year for them and now in 2017 they are in their death throes. ISIS' caliphate is shrinking, and the terror group is about to lose one of its biggest cities (2016)http://www.businessinsider.com/how-much-territory-has-isis-lost-2016-10 Losing ground, fighters and morale – is it all over for Isis? (2016)https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/07/losing-ground-fighter-morale-is-it-all-over-for-isis-syria-turkey Top U.S. Official: Islamic State Has Lost 47 Percent of its Territory in Iraq (2016)http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/top-u-s-official-islamic-state-has-lost-47-percent-of-its-territory-in-iraq/ ISIS is losing. Watch how and why it's happening. (2015)https://www.vox.com/2015/4/15/8410501/ISIS-losing-Iraq The big, dumb know-nothing fucktard is taking credit, just like he did with an economy that was already good. His dumb as dog-shit followers believe his bullshit Edited September 16, 2020 by 'Nator pat, MadMax, and titanruss 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 16 minutes ago, 'Nator said: Yeah this is fucking retarded. I posted about 5 news stories from Obama's tenure, 3 or so years ago, all reporting the imminent demise of ISIS. Same with the Economy, first Trump says it is a fake bubble and a few months later he is touting the exact same numbers, this time "I have defeated the ISIS caliphate!". BTW he says the words "caliphate" every time, like he's super impressed with that word for some reason. I found my post from 2017 @LongTimeFan : But I thought decisions Trump made in October led to a route of ISIS in December? Are you telling me my news sources are wrong and that I'm just a mouthbreating sheep who is too stupid to think for myself? 'Nator, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Remember when Trump was running around saying the unemployment numbers are fake? As soon as he took office, they were acurate and his followers never question why it was fake when Obama was president and now they are real. 'Nator, begooode, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 15 hours ago, Btowner said: Remember when Trump was running around saying the unemployment numbers are fake? As soon as he took office, they were acurate and his followers never question why it was fake when Obama was president and now they are real. I have been harping on this. It's utterly incredible. And the black unemployment numbers he always stresses: From 16.8% to 7.8% during Obama's term. This trajectory continued as Trump took over and got down to a record, pre-pandemic 5.4% before Trump bungled the whole thing. What's better, 16.8% to 7.8% or 7.8% to 5.4%? Opponents and left media hardly ever hit back with this! Btowner, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 hours ago, 'Nator said: I have been harping on this. It's utterly incredible. And the black unemployment numbers he always stresses: From 16.8% to 7.8% during Obama's term. This trajectory continued as Trump took over and got down to a record, pre-pandemic 5.4% before Trump bungled the whole thing. What's better, 16.8% to 7.8% or 7.8% to 5.4%? Opponents and left media hardly ever hit back with this! It drives me nuts. Trump and his supporters are always whining about unfair treatment by the MSM. But MSM does a poor job of fact checking Trump, asking follow-up questions or even countering his flagrant lies. Just like his followers they have the attention span of a gnat and before spending any time reviewing or challenging something, they are just mindlessly chasing tweets. 'Nator, and Starkiller 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Nator Posted September 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Btowner said: It drives me nuts. Trump and his supporters are always whining about unfair treatment by the MSM. But MSM does a poor job of fact checking Trump, asking follow-up questions or even countering his flagrant lies. Just like his followers they have the attention span of a gnat and before spending any time reviewing or challenging something, they are just mindlessly chasing tweets. And in fact, left media and many Bernie types on the far left were directly responsible for NOT touting the Obama record. It was never good enough for them. So with Obama you had both the right and the far left rhetorically working against him. chef, and Btowner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 A couple of months ago, he told Chris Wallace his healthcare plan was going to be announced in two weeks. No one has asked him about this beautiful plan. But I bet his supporters think he implemented a healthcare plan two months ago. When was the last time a reporter asked how much money has Mexico contributed to the wall or how many miles of NEW walls have been built or how many dollars have China sent to the US treasury or how could the country with the largest military budget have a depleted military or since the military was out of bullets, what were they using overseas? The MSM is just as complicit as Fox News. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 I haven’t watched it yet to see if it’s worth the time, but here is 2015 deposition footage from the TrumpU fraud trial. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5f669400c5b6480e896ff8af?xhl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted September 20, 2020 Report Share Posted September 20, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 5:41 PM, Btowner said: A couple of months ago, he told Chris Wallace his healthcare plan was going to be announced in two weeks. No one has asked him about this beautiful plan. But I bet his supporters think he implemented a healthcare plan two months ago. When was the last time a reporter asked how much money has Mexico contributed to the wall or how many miles of NEW walls have been built or how many dollars have China sent to the US treasury or how could the country with the largest military budget have a depleted military or since the military was out of bullets, what were they using overseas? The MSM is just as complicit as Fox News. IMO, this is tied to the administration’s diversion tactics and conditioning citizens to lower our expectations of the country’s leadership. Every passing week brings another new blatant falsehood, baseless accusation, or mindlessly idiotic statement. Before anyone can press him and hold him accountable for it...he’s redirected everyone’s attention to some other new controversy that’s even more ridiculous and more irresponsible, while the previous stupidity is swept under the rug and forgotten. Btowner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted September 21, 2020 Report Share Posted September 21, 2020 Trump is a one man misinformation machine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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