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Zero shot he was ever going to throw right next to some of these guys with that pop gun arm. 

“To me, the next best tape of a college quarterback that I saw was Tyler Shough from Louisville.” @GregCosell has a SHOCKING QB2 in the 2025 NFL Draft:
 
 
 

I don't see accuracy problems in Ward. I see some system issues that he will need to grow from, hero ball, and a lot of positives. You brought up his dropped int rate. For me, a lot of his missed throws look like throwaways where he gives the guy a small chance to catch it. 
 
When a guy completes 67% on 454 attempts, nitpicking his accuracy isn't fair. The guy threw 39 td 7 int. You take those occasional mistakes because overall his style is working. 

I'm starting to feel like Shadeur Sanders comp is Daniel Jones with less velocity. 

He could win a SB on a stacked team with the right system. If he goes to any team that doesn't have a really good OL + a good short passing game, he's cooked. Any team that signs up for that is gonna get a ear full all season when he starts to fail. 

Ward definitely has some accuracy issues, but I believe they're mechanical in nature and not terminal. Most of his bad throws are when he's off-platform, and to be frank when he's being lazy. 

I don't see accuracy problems in Ward. I see some system issues that he will need to grow from, hero ball, and a lot of positives. You brought up his dropped int rate. For me, a lot of his missed throws look like throwaways where he gives the guy a small chance to catch it. 
 
When a guy completes 67% on 454 attempts, nitpicking his accuracy isn't fair. The guy threw 39 td 7 int. You take those occasional mistakes because overall his style is working. 

I'm starting to feel like Shadeur Sanders comp is Daniel Jones with less velocity. 

I don't see accuracy problems in Ward. I see some system issues that he will need to grow from, hero ball, and a lot of positives. You brought up his dropped int rate. For me, a lot of his missed throws look like throwaways where he gives the guy a small chance to catch it. 
 
When a guy completes 67% on 454 attempts, nitpicking his accuracy isn't fair. The guy threw 39 td 7 int. You take those occasional mistakes because overall his style is working. 

Lamar has evolved dramatically as a passer.  He played about as well as one can at QB last year.  Allen also put in the work to improve his accuracy.
 
That said, both are athletic freaks way more than this year's group of QB's and both are outliers in terms of their evolution as passers.

Not shaby for a scrub. Way to go, Cinderfella!
 
 

Have reached the point I just want to fast forward to the Borgonzi/Callahan media appearances at the combine so we can get their thoughts on this draft class post finishing the film grades on all these players, will they still be in full all options are on the table mode or has there been a shift in messaging from the last time we heard from them at the Senior Bowl.

Here is my prediction.  Cam Ward is picked #1, this site has a bunch of posts about Cam Ward, then at #3 the NFL announces a trade, and it is a haul from Giants for Ward, and then Carter is announced as the Titans pick at #3, then this site has a bunch of Abdul Carter posts. 

Ward isn’t a spaz like Levis and doesn’t play like he’s a crack addict. 

The people saying it's crazy for the Titans to expect another 1st to go back 1 spot don't understand how hysteria works. Borgonzi could fleece these fools and still get Carter. 

The people saying it's crazy for the Titans to expect another 1st to go back 1 spot don't understand how hysteria works. Borgonzi could fleece these fools and still get Carter. 

The Jets and Raiders could force the Giants hand.. losing out on a QB to your cross town rivals would be difficult to stomach..

Cam Ward designed this for a science fair project - see his Texas highschool logo on the leg:

Dart isn’t really that great. He’s playing in a wide open offense with tons of draftable position players. If you watch his film he is largely throwing to guys who are wide open. He’s also late on his reads way too often. He will end up a backup in the NFL.
 
I already said this a few days ago already, but I think he’s Mitch Trubisky.

full context:
 
Halfway through his first season at Miami, Cam Ward already has shown a knack for the dramatic.
Ward threw a 5-yard touchdown pass to Elijah Arroyo with 26 seconds left and No. 8 Miami roared back from a 25-point deficit in the second half to beat California 39-38 on Saturday night.
Ward led four straight touchdown drives to end the game and spoil what looked like the most monumental day in years for the Golden Bears (3-2, 0-2),
 
https://apnews.com/article/miami-cal-score-5bfa791266d2fb182364aaf53e012494
 
On the road, btw.  If you are deadset on criticizing Ward, you might want to pick a different game.

And Hunter's 'eliteness' is an oddity as he's not elite on either side of the ball.  Only elite in that he can play both ways which he won't do that much of in the pros...

“The Titans decide to find their future QB next year.” Sure, while adding no assets to help get the QB next year. 
 
QB or trade down

Josh Allen & Lamar kinda fucked it all up. Idk if you can go back and look at WHY their (any QB w/accuracy issues) comp % was so low (drops or purposefully throwing low % balls down bad). Sub 60% you just take em off the board imo. 

The McNair comparisons made a few weeks ago cracked me up because they are not really that similar.