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6 minutes ago, OnsideKick said:

 

Who was the cb someone posted about recently that supposedly had 22 pbu? Of its the same guy 15 makes alot more sense than 22. 

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1 hour ago, OnsideKick said:

 


He had a bunch of off the field stuff. I'd like to know the full story there but people had taken him off their draft boards. I know his camp has tried to sell his redemption.

 

If you get past that he's maybe as good as anyone at Wr this draft. 

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56 minutes ago, socaljake said:

Thing is Reese could play off ball LB too like Styles, but he carries the upside as an edge rusher. I wouldn't take Styles over him over Bailey. I just find it hard to justify off ball LB over pass rusher, especially when I think they're in a similar tier as players.


Styles pass rush advanced stats were supposedly every bit as good as Reeces but Reece wasn't as productive at LB. . 

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16 minutes ago, titanruss said:


Styles pass rush advanced stats were supposedly every bit as good as Reeces but Reece wasn't as productive at LB. . 

Yeah, but those metrics weren't differentiating where they were rushing from. Styles didn't rush off the edge. Reese did and had good metrics over the 90 or so edge snaps. 

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Rapoport like Breer/Schefter/Jones said most teams he has talked with believe the Jets are taking David Bailey at pick #2.

 

Also mentions the Love to the Cardinals possibility.

 

Then talks about what the Titans might do if Arvell Reese makes it to pick #4.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Pragidealist said:

I dont think so.  He's still projecting to be a mlb and Saleh has never drafted one higher than a low 1st round and has gotten great results from mid rounds.   It's quite possible they pass on these defensive players for offensive. If not Love, then I would guess Tate.  

Styles just makes the least sense to me. And I like Styles, but short of him turning into the next Luke Kuechly or Ray Lewis, I don't see it being a major needle mover.

 

Let's say the absolute 100% best outcome happens with Love, Bailey, Reese, Tate, Styles. I feel like if they all maximize their ceiling, Styles provides the least value. If Reese, it's a top tier edge who can also play off ball LB. Bailey if he maximizes his potential is a double digit sack guy playing EDGE. I have a few reservations about Tate, but if he really does end up becoming a stud WR1 that's going to help Cam and the team ultimately more than Styles.

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2 hours ago, Pragidealist said:

I dont think so.  He's still projecting to be a mlb and Saleh has never drafted one higher than a low 1st round and has gotten great results from mid rounds.   It's quite possible they pass on these defensive players for offensive. If not Love, then I would guess Tate.  

Styles just makes the least sense to me. And I like Styles, but short of him turning into the next Luke Kuechly or Ray Lewis, I don't see it being a major needle mover.

 

Let's say the absolute 100% best outcome happens with Love, Bailey, Reese, Tate, Styles. I feel like if they all maximize their ceiling, Styles provides the least value. If Reese hits, it's a top tier edge who can also play off ball LB. Bailey if he maximizes his potential is a double digit sack guy playing EDGE. I have a few reservations about Tate, but if he really does end up becoming a stud WR1 that's going to help Cam and the team ultimately more than Styles.

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