TerryBoats Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, stormi said: It's doing a case study about how the teams that win are conducting themselves. It's a deeper discussion about what positional value actually means. It's not just about Love. Drafting Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs 4th overall would be just as retarded. Why? You do not waste premium draft capital on non-premium positions. Who do you suggest they take? There are nothing but non -premium positions in this draft. I'm fine with them trading back. But there are a lot of good players at premium positions in the league who are on terrible teams, and a lot of good rosters which aren't littered with Top 10 picks. A competent GM and coaching staff should be capable of filling out the entire roster to the point that one "wasted" pick on an elite offensive playmaker won't kill them. IsntLifeFunny, and Pragidealist 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 3 hours ago, stormi said: It's doing a case study about how the teams that win are conducting themselves. It's a deeper discussion about what positional value actually means. It's not just about Love. Drafting Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs 4th overall would be just as retarded. Why? You do not waste premium draft capital on non-premium positions. TN blew a top 5 pick on WR Davis, how did that work out? Bottom line with the draft you have to draft HOF talent in the top 5. If you miss it hurts the team for a decade. I think the positional value BS is way over rated. That all being said I do not think any WR or RB is generational in this draft. I do think there are generational players available at LB, S and DE. So with this pick I want TN to get a stud and I really do not care what position Borgo goes because quite frankly this team needs a lot of hole filled. Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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japan Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 18 hours ago, Pragidealist said: Giving up your top 5 picks to get mid to late picks and 2nd round picks is a good way to fill holes with good but not great players. This franchise needs cornerstone bluechip players or the next playoff window is going to be filled with lots of 1 and done appearances, or depend on getting luckier than the other teams if there is no blue chip guy- trade down but don’t waste top 5 picks to fill holes in any year I think the argument is different. There are no can’t miss prospects in the top 5 this season. Love is the closest to ‘can’t miss’ but his position is the most devalued in football. There are a lot of good players in the first 3 rounds and maximizing our picks in those rounds, with a roster devoid of talent seems to me to be wise. But it does depend on another team wanting to make a deal. I’m fine with Love if the pass rushers are gone, you don’t value Tate at 4 and there isn’t a trade partner willing to give up the proper value. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SARGO24 Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 It’s shitty that the elite prospects are at positions that shouldn’t warrant a top 5 pick, Sonny Styles, Love and Downs. headhunter, japan, IsntLifeFunny, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 7 minutes ago, SARGO24 said: It’s shitty that the elite prospects are at positions that shouldn’t warrant a top 5 pick, Sonny Styles, Love and Downs. I dunno why more elite prospects didnt come out for this draft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeedoeLaw Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 (edited) I think 1500 to 2000 yds of total offense and 10-15 total TDs is pretty damn valuable. I know there is no guarantee Love puts up those kind of numbers in his first season, but I think most agree that is the type of RB he is. That kind of production is absolutely worth a top 5 pick. If Saleh works his magic with the defense, and we end up with a defense like he had in NY, we will absolutely be in contention. Add in the franchise QB we drafted last year playing against defenses with a pick your poison dilemma. Edited April 11 by BeedoeLaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 26 minutes ago, headhunter said: I dunno why more elite prospects didnt come out for this draft Either ineligible or they're living the life off that NIL tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Either ineligible or they're living the life off that NIL tit. Well we know Dante Moore didn't come out because he didn't want to play for the Jets so it only makes sense the Jets will draft him next year Edited April 11 by headhunter NashvilleNinja 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 7 hours ago, TerryBoats said: Per this model, Tate is the 55th best prospect. Can’t believe you posted this unironically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Maybe make your own choices Borgo lol Pragidealist 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 11 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said: Maybe make your own choices Borgo lol I'm missing the context for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 Just now, NashvilleNinja said: I'm missing the context for this. That Borgo shouldn't listen to Salehs input on prospects I guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 11 Report Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: I'm missing the context for this. It’s a post from the Jets account showing text messages from Saleh and Douglas the morning before they drafted Malachi Corley who was a horrific pick. 1 minute ago, headhunter said: That Borgo shouldn't listen to Salehs input on prospects I guess It’s a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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