Teams have contacted the Titans regards trading for Roger McCreary and Arden Key

[AussieTitanFan08]

While it should absolutely be on the table think this might be the first time I have seen a report that Pollard is actually one of the players who is available before the trade deadline shuts.

 

 

[titanruss]

I think offloading Chig will be a mistake. We haven't had the offensive capabilities to utilize him. We've got money to extend him for a couple years. 

[charleytolar]

32 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

Trading a player in his second year is like trading a car in just a few weeks after purchasing brand new.  You just lost money, for nothing.

A car has a fixed value. Players don't. Some overperform and some underperform, but you almost always get back less than you paid-- unless a real standout is involved but there are few of those traded.

 

The Detroit Lions traded tight end T.J. Hockenson, pick 1-8,  to the Minnesota Vikings in November 2022 for draft picks. The trade, which is now widely considered a win for the Vikings, involved the Vikings receiving Hockenson, a 2023 fourth-round pick, and a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick. In return, the Lions received a 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick. 

 

There is no automatic; it is what the buyer will pay and there aren't usually a lot of buyers.

 

A top-flight RFA lost garners no more than a 3rd Round pick if I'm not mistaken. A typical third-round pick plays 2.8 seasons and each has a success rate of around 16% to become a quality player. These RFAs are proven commodities; seems like they'd be valued more...

[Mythos27]

3 hours ago, titanruss said:

 

 

 Ya'll are lapping up the Titans PR script

 

We have zero idea what happened. Every player on the team said nothing happened and were confused. His DB coach and DC both said they didnt think he needed to change the way he played.  There has been ZERO indication of insubordination or malcontent from him-  outside of what was said when he was traded. No one in media or the players or his own coaches indicated any issues and nothing has come to light. 

 

He hasnt had a penalty since week one and only had like 57 yards of penalties last year. 

 

A far more likely case is that Borg wanted his guys playing regardless. Its extremely common for new managers to come in and think they have to tear down everything to rebuild how they see fit. The issue arises when establishing dominance overshadows production. 

 

 

Kuharsky, who covers the team closely, has said repeatedly he was released for culture issues. Also, saying that no one had issues with his play is flat out inaccurate. Here is an excerpt from one of PK's articles including direct quotes from Wilson: 

 

"Look, I want him to play with the tenacity that he plays with and I want him to play hard,” Wilson said. “But the penalties must stop. We have to clean it up and I’ve been raised with the thought that if you allow it to happen, it’s not good. We’ve addressed it. We’re going to keep working on him getting his hands down at the top of the route, not grabbing, understanding when is the point to take your hand off receivers.

 

“At the beginning of the stage, yes be violent with your hands, move your feet. But as they start to go in the move area, we’ve got to drop our hands.”

 

Wilson sounded frustrated about the Brownlee penalties, saying they are unacceptable a year after he was called for nine. There will be practice work regarding them this week.

 

Brownlee stated that he didn't feel he had to make why changes to his game after this was said by Wilson. Everything isn't a conspiracy theory. He was asked to clean up his play, refused, and was sent packing. He probably thought we were too desperate to really hold him accountable and his bluff was called. That's not propaganda; it's accountability. 

[OILERMAN]

Armour-Davis is fitting in perfectly with the current culture 

[Callidus]

1 hour ago, charleytolar said:

A car has a fixed value. Players don't. Some overperform and some underperform, but you almost always get back less than you paid-- unless a real standout is involved but there are few of those traded.

 

The Detroit Lions traded tight end T.J. Hockenson, pick 1-8,  to the Minnesota Vikings in November 2022 for draft picks. The trade, which is now widely considered a win for the Vikings, involved the Vikings receiving Hockenson, a 2023 fourth-round pick, and a conditional 2024 fourth-round pick. In return, the Lions received a 2023 second-round pick and a 2024 third-round pick. 

 

There is no automatic; it is what the buyer will pay and there aren't usually a lot of buyers.

 

A top-flight RFA lost garners no more than a 3rd Round pick if I'm not mistaken. A typical third-round pick plays 2.8 seasons and each has a success rate of around 16% to become a quality player. These RFAs are proven commodities; seems like they'd be valued more...

Cars have a fixed value?

 

You literally picked one of the few things in in america you can haggle on....

Edited Monday at 10:54 PM by Callidus

[charleytolar]

2 minutes ago, Callidus said:

Cars have a fixed value?

 

You literally picked one of the few things in in america you can haggle on....

The value I'm referring to is performance. Any one car works virtually as well as any other. Not all 2nd round picks are equal...

[begooode]

7 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

You absolutely cannot tolerate blatant insubordination from a player. If you let that slide, it shows that you can defy the coaching staff without consequences and you lose the whole team. 

I agree overall, with the exception being your high production superstar player(s), and if the transgressions don’t cost them games.

[OzTitan]

Insubordination can lead to things other than being cut/traded though, especially if the player has some potential and the team is not at the end of its tether. 

[Mythos27]

11 minutes ago, OzTitan said:

Insubordination can lead to things other than being cut/traded though, especially if the player has some potential and the team is not at the end of its tether. 

I agree, which leads me to believe that they were at the end. I mean if the coach tells the player "you need to change the way you're playing" and the player flat out says no, you're kind of at an impasse. Personally, I felt like Brownlee was overrated specially as an outside CB but the Titans certainly saw enough value in him to start him so I'm sure they didn't just part ways on some petty shit knowing damn well what the players behind Brownlee looked like.

 

[Mythos27]

@titanrussAnd now, I'm hearing from Buck that according to his sources, the Brownlee move was not a coaching decision but rather one motivated by the front office to get Armour-Davis in there. Not sure who to believe but this certainly aligns with what you said. Figured I'd tag you since I denied what you speculated earlier. 

[NashvilleNinja]

30 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

@titanrussAnd now, I'm hearing from Buck that according to his sources, the Brownlee move was not a coaching decision but rather one motivated by the front office to get Armour-Davis in there.

 

 

[oldschool]

48 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

@titanrussAnd now, I'm hearing from Buck that according to his sources, the Brownlee move was not a coaching decision but rather one motivated by the front office to get Armour-Davis in there. Not sure who to believe but this certainly aligns with what you said. Figured I'd tag you since I denied what you speculated earlier. 

 

Buck? Lol.

[AussieTitanFan08]

Just now, oldschool said:

 

Buck? Lol.

 

lol has Corey Davis signed his extension yet.

[Mythos27]

21 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Buck? Lol.

 

19 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

lol has Corey Davis signed his extension yet.

Your skepticism is well taken. However, it's hard for me to dismiss reporting off-hand if the reporter has connections in that building. I found his reporting hard to believe as well but it's hard to be too definitive.