IsntLifeFunny Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 3 minutes ago, oldschool said: Some 2nd hand quote reposted from russ doesn't mean they arent doing a post mortem. Brinker was involved in selecting Callahan. He knows he needs to get the next hire right. I also dont buy that they somehow missed how conservative callahan would be or just how much he would be unable to handle game management. Some times guys interview really well and then cant handle the step up in duties and things suffer. His conservative nature was a major shocker, im sure it was for Brinker and Borgonzi as well. Its one thing to protect your young QBs, what we see was a different level. I think a big factor in that was his dad's influence on the scheme in general. Getting Bill Callahan was universally praised but something was very wrong there. I understand it's just a comment, but it cuts to the heart of the fact Brinker is the only football person involved in all of this. His flippant comment about the process being just fine raised my eyebrow. Nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 I wonder if passing on LaFleur for being too green influenced her willingness to go with Callahan. He really should have at least been a successful true OC somewhere first. Thing is, I bet bring a full OC (and having to deal with a domineering asshole like Vrabel) helped LaFleur mature into being ready for the HC role. TerryBoats 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 15 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I understand it's just a comment, but it cuts to the heart of the fact Brinker is the only football person involved in all of this. His flippant comment about the process being just fine raised my eyebrow. Nothing more. 1000p there is something wrong with the interview process. There’s no way Callahan should have gotten through. TerryBoats, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 17 minutes ago, TheBukafax said: 1000p there is something wrong with the interview process. There’s no way Callahan should have gotten through. This is easy to say. you have no idea how he interviewed... and he was a highly sought after candidate. Some times guys just don't work out. In this case maybe his lack of calling plays didn't have anything to do with being a shitty HC? Maybe he hit his ceiling? it happens all the time. TylerRoseFan, and TerryBoats 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Callahan is not the first guy who interviewed well with it not carrying over to the field. He also won’t be the last. oldschool, and Btowner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 1 hour ago, Callidus said: That isnt something that comes up in the hiring process though. It would be like looking for a plumber and asking them what you call it when water is coming out of a pipe where it shouldn't. You assume they know the basics. But hell, maybe im wrong, the first time i was interviewed for a construction job they asked if i could read a tape measure and i looked at them like they were retarded. Which sadly is a needed question iv found out over time lol. Edit: the point being the higher up you go the ladder the number of things you are expected to know without question goes up. Borgonzi: "Question #1... what equals two feet when catching a football whilst going out of bounds? Question #2... would you consider challenging an incomplete ruling if the receiver's dick appeared to graze in bounds before the rest of him fell out of bounds?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 (edited) In reality, Callahan's job-winning interview consisted of captain obvious, ChatGPT responses like this that absolutely anyone could produce and they were impressed because they are also idiots. Edited October 18 by TerryBoats Lars 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 4 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Borgonzi: "Question #1... what equals two feet when catching a football whilst going out of bounds? Question #2... would you consider challenging an incomplete ruling if the receiver's dick appeared to graze in bounds before the rest of him fell out of bounds?" If only they were that thorough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 If you legitimately didn't like the hire, kudos to you @TerryBoats @TheBukafax. We all make judgements on hires but miss me with the bullshit that you guys know how he interviewed and that the team botched it or didn't ask the right questions. Thats you retrofitting issues with the process because the outcome matched your preconceived notions on the hire. FireInTheHole, Mythos27, and TF_Titan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 Anyone acting like Callahan wasn't a disaster and that the interviewing process was A-OK are living in an alternate reality. To have a coach who doesn't know the rules and doesn't understand game theory is a complete disaster. Not being able to get him to admit as much in multiple interviews spanning hours of conversation is a massive red flag. Lars 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 1 minute ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Anyone acting like Callahan wasn't a disaster and that the interviewing process was A-OK are living in an alternate reality. To have a coach who doesn't know the rules and doesn't understand game theory is a complete disaster. Not being able to get him to admit as much in multiple interviews spanning hours of conversation is a massive red flag. Have you ever interviewed someone or been the person that makes the decision? I'm going to guess no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 44 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Anyone acting like Callahan wasn't a disaster and that the interviewing process was A-OK are living in an alternate reality. To have a coach who doesn't know the rules and doesn't understand game theory is a complete disaster. Not being able to get him to admit as much in multiple interviews spanning hours of conversation is a massive red flag. You know hindsight is always 20/20, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 2 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I understand that. Some people interview well and of course you believe he has a baseline intelligence and understanding of the game. What I'm seeing out of this is they did likely very little in regards to fact finding about his understanding of the game. They also likely did not peel enough layers back to understand whether he truly has a conservative or aggressive mindset. It's unbelievable to me, but he was more conservative than Vrabel. That obviously wasn't the plan, so what went wrong? Once again, these are post mortem questions any serious organization should obviously be asking themselves. The fact the guy in charge of football operations apparently thinks everything in the process was fine doesn't sit well with me. While I generally agreed with the process on selecting , I kind of agree here in not asking more/vetting him after 2024 and the general decision to retain him. In terms of that , something went wrong or he’s just one of those who can answer the blackboard stuff but can’t do it when it’s most important. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBukafax Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, oldschool said: If you legitimately didn't like the hire, kudos to you @TerryBoats @TheBukafax. We all make judgements on hires but miss me with the bullshit that you guys know how he interviewed and that the team botched it or didn't ask the right questions. Thats you retrofitting issues with the process because the outcome matched your preconceived notions on the hire. What? Nah. Based on info we had I liked the hire too. The reason I’m saying there’s an issue with hiring is because of what Callahans mistakes were. The guy didn’t know simple rules, he didn’t understand when to go for it or play it safe, just a lot of unawareness overall. We have coders going through 10 interviews with testing the whole way. How does a multimillion dollar job that’s 1/32 not vet that thoroughly. Put Callahan through a boiler room of situational awareness and he’d have been out the door. Edited October 18 by TheBukafax IsntLifeFunny, and TylerRoseFan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted October 18 Report Share Posted October 18 3 hours ago, oldschool said: Nothing pisses me off more on this board when I agree with a post of yours. Well done. Take two CEO Farts and call IDGAF in the morning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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