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That should seriously end a presidency, I'm not kidding   How stupid would you have to be to be a minority, lets just say Asian, and support this racist?

Trump is genuinely an idiot running the country. Like an extremely low IQ individual. Bush was dumb in his ways but this is another level. Fascinating to watch him with even less guard rails

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41 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Yes. We live in an Oligarchy. Have for decades. 

Saw a good breakdown of this the other day and I had to agree at least conceptually. Neoliberalism, which was both party's leading economic philosophy since the 80s, is corporatist whereas MAGA is oligarchic.

 

Corporatists craved stability above all else and took full advantage of the long term benefits of privatizing the safety net, lowering regulations and taxes, while expanding trade. 

 

MAGA is actually oligarchical. They crave Quid Pro Quo and exertion of force through assymetrical chaos to directly carve up power by means of segregation and domination. Different structures. 

 

Just thought that was an interesting juxtaposition. 

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3 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

We've always known that racism isn't a deal breaker for them. Most of them don't actually believe racism is real and to the extent that they do they don't think it's a big deal. The only racism they actually believe in is "reverse racism". These are not serious people.

Deal breaker? Racism is a positive for most of his supporters. 
 

The modern Republican Party is built on racism. The parties last shifted after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Southern Democrats (conservatives) all eventually left the party and became Republicans. Their entire “party of small government” philosophy is directly in response to the federal government forcing them to desegregate and to allow black people to vote and generally be treated as equals under the law. 
 

Most Republicans have no problem with him doing something racist. They just don’t want to be seen as racist in public. 

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2 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Saw a good breakdown of this the other day and I had to agree at least conceptually. Neoliberalism, which was both party's leading economic philosophy since the 80s, is corporatist whereas MAGA is oligarchic.

 

Corporatists craved stability above all else and took full advantage of the long term benefits of privatizing the safety net, lowering regulations and taxes, while expanding trade. 

 

MAGA is actually oligarchical. They crave Quid Pro Quo and exertion of force through assymetrical chaos to directly carve up power by means of segregation and domination. Different structures. 

 

Just thought that was an interesting juxtaposition. 

 

42 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Deal breaker? Racism is a positive for most of his supporters. 
 

The modern Republican Party is built on racism. The parties last shifted after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Southern Democrats (conservatives) all eventually left the party and became Republicans. Their entire “party of small government” philosophy is directly in response to the federal government forcing them to desegregate and to allow black people to vote and generally be treated as equals under the law. 
 

Most Republicans have no problem with him doing something racist. They just don’t want to be seen as racist in public. 

Of course we all know that a lot of his supporters are true racists for whom this is a feature, not a bug. However, there are some of his supporters who don't think of themselves as racist but support him despite his overt racism. They're the kind of people who refer to his racist statements as "he says stupid things sometimes". They're the apologists who will claim to detest racism but will accept it if it gives them a tax break. They are the ones that will pretend they never supported him 10 years from now. 

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1 hour ago, Mythos27 said:

 

Of course we all know that a lot of his supporters are true racists for whom this is a feature, not a bug. However, there are some of his supporters who don't think of themselves as racist but support him despite his overt racism. They're the kind of people who refer to his racist statements as "he says stupid things sometimes". They're the apologists who will claim to detest racism but will accept it if it gives them a tax break. They are the ones that will pretend they never supported him 10 years from now. 

Those are actually the ones that you can peel off as a voting block because they give a shit about their own pocketbook than whatever philosophies/ideals that are being espoused.

 

They are kind of like Trump in general, they go where the wind blows at the moment. I mean I’d still consider them racist in a sense since they supported him.

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2 hours ago, Starkiller said:

Deal breaker? Racism is a positive for most of his supporters. 
 

The modern Republican Party is built on racism. The parties last shifted after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Southern Democrats (conservatives) all eventually left the party and became Republicans. Their entire “party of small government” philosophy is directly in response to the federal government forcing them to desegregate and to allow black people to vote and generally be treated as equals under the law. 
 

Most Republicans have no problem with him doing something racist. They just don’t want to be seen as racist in public. 

 

I have proven you wrong repeatedly in your stance that the Southern Democrats were conservative, but you continue to stick to your libtard stance.   All the while defending the Jew hating left, which is pathetic coming from you.

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23 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

 

I have proven you wrong repeatedly in your stance that the Southern Democrats were conservative, but you continue to stick to your libtard stance.   All the while defending the Jew hating left, which is pathetic coming from you.

Just because you claim something stupid doesn’t mean you have ”proven me wrong”.

 

As for Jew hating, the left only hates Israel while the right hates Jews…

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16 minutes ago, Titandan said:

 

Dems actually started going after the poor people as a voting block. And many blacks from the south migrated to the bigger cities in the northeast and southwest.  Repubs continued to pursue low taxes and limited government. They just neglected to pander to minorities for votes.  Dems were actually smart for doing that. Too bad pandering is unsustainable and can only get you so far. At a certain point, you need to have good policies. 

 

As far as senators go, I think Strom Thurmond was the only dixiecrat to switch parties in the 60's.

I love how being overtly racist translates to “just neglected to pander to minorities for votes”

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