Total Trump Victory Celebration Thread

[Titandan]

4 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

No. No, I don't think I will move on from someone being paid to push Russian propaganda and people here promoting that person.

 

One question someone intellectually curious might ask, obviously not you, would be why he is so well aligned with Russian propaganda such that he wouldn't even have to change his message to make them happy. What does that say about his message? 

 

Anyway, no. Again, no. I'm not going to stop reminding you that this guy should never be viewed in any way shape or form and the moment you mention him you discredit yourself fundamentally absolutely and beyond repair. That you continue doing it is simply a sign of how far gone you are.

 

It's pathetic.

I think ending the war is actually much more aligned with Ukraine's best interest. 

 

If what @tgo says is true, then Russia should want to end the war as well but Ukraine has been losing territory the last 3 years.  Ending the war ASAP before  it gets worse should be at the top of the list for anyone who's pro Ukraine. 

[Starkiller]

27 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Maddow also continued to call ivermectin horse dewormer when humans have been taking years for antiviral medication.  It's like if you're eating a steak, and I announce to everyone that Starkiller is eating dog food. 

 

 

Maddow isn't stupid.  That's why the lies are just messed up.  Did you watch the video of Maddow claiming Elon sold the cyber trucks to the Trump admin when if was actually bought during the Biden admin? 

 

I don't know how you guys can continue to believe these hacks. 

Aside from the fact that she didn’t lie as ivermectin is a horse dewormer and conservatives were actually rushing out to take the veterinary version, it also wasn’t an effective drug against covid. Same with hydroxychloroquine, which is also a real drug that had other valid uses. Both were sold to suckers as a Covid cure. So no, not a lie on her part.

 

As for the Tesla purchase plans by the state department, that also wasn’t a lie. You can call it spin or unfair or whatever you want but it was still true.

Edited February 23 by Starkiller

[Titandan]

4 minutes ago, Starkiller said:

Aside from the fact that she didn’t lie as ivermectin is a horse dewormer and conservatives were actually rushing out to take the veterinary version, it also wasn’t an effective drug against covid. Same with hydroxychloroquine, which is also a real drug that had other valid uses. Both were sold to suckers as a Covid cure. So no, not a lie on her part.

 

As for the Tesla purchase plans by the state department, that also wasn’t a lie. You can call it spin or unfair or whatever you want but it was still true.

If you don't see the dishonesty in both situations, I don't know what to say... 

 

In a hypothetical situation, it's like if I were to say, "Lamar Jackson is a trash quarterback. The Ravens threw 30 interceptions last season." But when you look it up, the backup QB actually threw 26 of the interceptions and Jackson only threw 4. It's extremely dishonest. 

 

You can't attribute blame on someone when the "crime" actually happened under someone else's watch. Don't know how you can be considered a journalist. You're just a propaganda tool at that point. 

[Justafan]

I can’t remember which one it was that repeatedly pointed out Fox being sued for lying…

 

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/21/nx-s1-5305268/nbc-settles-lawsuit-ice-doctor-msnbc-maddow-georgia-detainee?utm_source

Edited February 23 by Justafan

[OILERMAN]

3 hours ago, Titandan said:

You might want to sit for this, dad. 

 

 

 

@Justafan Since you liked this.....

 

I watched this entire video. You obviously didn't watch it and liked a video posted by, none other than, dan.

 

First of all they openly mock her for being gay and are homophobic and refer to her as "Madcow"

 

The two blatant lies allegedly by Maddow were Russia tried to help Trump in the election. That's a fact they did. The other was whether the vaccine helped limit/stop the spreading of the Virus. It did. 

 

They move on to say Tucker Carlson was fired for telling the truth. He 100% was fired for lying and when he was sued his lawyer argued his audience knew he was lying. Fox paid 1 bill in a liability case. 

 

And lastly and the best is they tip their hat to Joe Rogan for saying Seth Rich was murdered for leaking the Hillary E-mails, which is a right wing conspiracy that was totally debunked. 

 

L-O-Fucking -L:

 

The Fox News Channel has reached a private settlement with the parents of the slain Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich. The network had baselessly reported in May 2017 that Rich leaked thousands of Democratic party emails to Wikileaks during the height of the 2016 presidential campaign.

The story, reported by Fox News' Malia Zimmerman and retracted seven days later, also suggested without any evidence that Democrats might have been linked to the killing of the 27-year-old Rich

 

@Justafan I'd seriously like to know what you "liked" about this video.

 

There are no legit comparisons between Rogan/Fox and Maddow. 

 

[MadMax]

That was a dismantling.

[Titandan]

48 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The other was whether the vaccine helped limit/stop the spreading of the Virus. It did.

 

Russia gate was a hoox. More to come from New FBI Director Kash Patel. 

 

And I think Starkiller mentioned that the vaccine stopped the original strain of covid but it morphed.  

 

Maddow said the vaccine "will end it."  Look, I don't expect her to know everything about a Virus that was new to the world.  So I'm trying to be fair. Trump said stuff he wasn't sure about when he did his press briefings during the pandemic. But he was pretty open minded with the potential solutions. Many people were wrong about the solution. But it would be nice to hear from your side that you guys didn't know everything that there was to know about the Virus either. Now covid is just a part of our lives whether we like it or not and it has not stopped like Maddow suggested. 

 

And if the vaccine only stops the one strain from infecting and being transmitted to another person before it mutates, then for all practical intents and purposes, it's a useless feature because this virus does inevitably mutate into different strains in perpetuity. 

[No1TitansFan]

16 hours ago, Titandan said:

When Trump took over in 2016, he underestimated the reach of the "deep state."  Judging by the amount of corruption and the people that backstabbed him when the opportunities presented themselves, I think his appointing of loyalists is warranted.  He also had some war hawks (Bolton) and generals that are bought out by the military industrial complex(Mattis and Esper) in his cabinet.  But this is just my opinion.  Feel free to disagree. 

If the Obama admin didn't weaponize the FBI to make up scandals and if Biden's handlers didn't weaponize the DOJ to go after Trump and his loyalists, I think Trump would just go about his business. But when there was blatant politicization of the judicial system to litigate a former president/presidential candidate, and when corruption and government waste is being exposed at the rate that it is, I don't see how anyone in their right mind can question the moves that Trump's making. But I'm sure the TR libs will find a way.  Still love them and hope they will accept the truth one day.  At least you're trying to be reasonable. Appreciate you either way.

Or maybe Trump is an opportunistic, corrupt narcissist and all those people who "turned" on him are actually just telling you the truth, have you for one second of your existecne considerd that possilbity? The notion that the scores and scores of former officials of both parties who oppose him are all part of some vast "deep state" conspiracy is exactly the foundation of cultism. Beileve or not most life long bureaucrats are on the public's side instead of the big monied industrial interests the legally bribed politicans on both sides are employed to protect  

Edited February 23 by No1TitansFan

[OzTitan]

A fairly common informed opinion on C19 was it would likely eventually follow a pattern like influenza, that is, mutate and require seasonal shots to keep on top of it, if you want to improve your chances of avoiding/dealing with it.

[Strunk'sDessert]

When @OILERMAN goes beyond 3 sentences, ya done fucked up. 

[chef]

12 hours ago, Justafan said:

People on this forum watch Racheal Maddow non stop. They aren't any better informed than the Joe Rogan fanatics. 

 

 

 

Was going to respond to this then realized it set off a million replies.  But yes, seriously doubt it.

 

Sure I bet some love her as cheering for their team, but in reality, I bet many on this "team" are closer to me: not really Dem cheerleaders, and don't like being sold to... which is just about all I see in the brief moments MSNBC pops up on a YT thing or something.  I do not have cable tv, do not watch standard news programming.  Which again I bet is more the norm, particularly for the non-Fox crowd.

 

The one thing Fox has said which isn't a lie: they more or less kicked the ass of the other stations on news rating.  In part to to fragmented market sure.  But we all saw MSNBC trying to position themselves as a counterpoint and therefore it wasn't just news, it was news for a market segment.  CNN has been wringing its hands for years: trying to show they are not biased, then hiring talking heads more like MSNBC.  I think now it's just for BS sponsored online ads that look like stoires. Sad.  At one point during Bernard Shaw years they were actually pretty great.

 

So again I doubt that very many here consistently tune into her or even similar.  And no way at all to comp her to Rogan.  First of all, he's way more likeable.

 

Regardless of his intelligence on matters, he knows enough to know what sells, so he pushes that.  Which in turn ends up pushing conspiracy narratives and the like. He sure didn't invent the concept but he has built a podcast empire on it.   Not sure what to do about that.  He's only a small part of greater issues that are not limited to his listeners.

 

Because yes people are getting dumber (ie kids test scores have been dropping).  But more than that, they have less and less attention span, and too many things to pay attention to.  Makes everyone easier to manipulate, and it's not always done maliciously.  Just what we've become.

 

I still rec to anyone to read foreign news reports on the US whenever you can.  BBC ain't what it used to be but it's not the worst. Al-Jazeera is better than most would think as long as the middle east/Muslims aren't the topic (forget fair and balanced then).  

 

But these days younger kids can barely make it through a serious 2 hour movie.  And I bet if watching at home (or heck at theater too) - if they have a phone - 90%+ would never make it through without shifting back and forth from the "big" screen to the small one.  This all goes way deeper than just politics. 

Edited February 24 by chef

[Titandan]

1 hour ago, OzTitan said:

A fairly common informed opinion on C19 was it would likely eventually follow a pattern like influenza, that is, mutate and require seasonal shots to keep on top of it, if you want to improve your chances of avoiding/dealing with it.

Yes, I heard that theory at the beginning. But I don't think anyone had absolute certainty either way.  Prefer to have a softer stance on things I'm not sure about.  And yes, I was hoping that the virus would indeed be completely eradicated due to the vaccines but I guess we'll just have to learn to deal with it from here on out.

[Titandan]

41 minutes ago, Strunk'sDessert said:

When @OILERMAN goes beyond 3 sentences, ya done fucked up. 

 

[Titandan]

2 hours ago, No1TitansFan said:

Or maybe Trump is an opportunistic, corrupt narcissist and all those people who "turned" on him are actually just telling you the truth, have you for one second of your existecne considerd that possilbity? The notion that the scores and scores of former officials of both parties who oppose him are all part of some vast "deep state" conspiracy is exactly the foundation of cultism. Beileve or not most life long bureaucrats are on the public's side instead of the big monied industrial interests the legally bribed politicans on both sides are employed to protect  

 

You could be correct. I'm not going to completely rule that out of the equation. I've mentioned repeatedly that Trump is a flawed vessel.  

 

But a crap load of people opposing Trump are not good people. 

 

Could it be that both sides are evil? Yes.  But at that point it's going to be about policy for me and MAGA wins that hands down. 

[pat]

For the record, I'm probably one of the more commie anarchists on the board.  I don't watch Rachel Maddow.

Instead, I watch normal news and see things like:

• Trump directing a mob TO THE CAPITAL where they proceed to riot
• Un-elected tech billionaires formerly known for running their businesses into the ground now running the federal government into the ground
• Abrupt threats to allies, and cozy alignment with dictators

And the common sense position is WTF is this mess.

It's one thing when Twitter got wrecked by this crew.  Everybody could just move on to new sites.

But what happens when the USA has been wrecked?

We can't go anywhere.  We're stuck in this country.  Where the planes crash, the bridges collapse, the healthcare isn't covered, and our retirement funds are tanking.

yay turnip ownz the libs