If Brock Bowers Blows Up the Combine...

[IsntLifeFunny]

9 hours ago, headhunter said:

Nobody cares 

That you're a douchebag? Yep. Nobody cares about that for sure. Bud has been around for a shorter time than you and yet you're his junior.

Edited February 14, 2024 by IsntLifeFunny

[reo]

1 hour ago, Justafan said:

Exactly. Every damn one of them are 250+ and great blockers who know how to leverage their big body to get open or make contested catches. Bowers is small, only 230 lbs, and lacks the frame to really get to the ideal size and be as explosive. 

 

I can tell you right now he ISN'T Kelce and NFL teams know it. 

 

Bowers is listed as 6'4 240 at 21 yrs old. Adding some muscle once in the NFL isn't that crazy of a thought. 

 

Chig is 6'3 240.

Jonnu Smith is 6'3 248

 

He's not that  under sized. 

[AussieTitanFan08]

3 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Bowers is listed as 6'4 240 at 21 yrs old. Adding some muscle once in the NFL isn't that crazy of a thought. 

 

Chig is 6'3 240.

Jonnu Smith is 6'3 248

 

He's not that  under sized. 

 

Okonkwo was 7th percentile for height and 4th percentile for weight so yes he is extremely undersized compared to the TE position.

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/chigoziem-okonkwo

[reo]

5 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

Okonkwo was 7th percentile for height and 4th percentile for weight so yes he is extremely undersized compared to the TE position.

 

https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/chigoziem-okonkwo

 

You do know that's why I said "he's not that under sized" right? There are tight ends in the NFL who are starters who are his size or smaller. 6'4 240 probably with potential to gain mass isn't that crazy of a concept. Especially if he's primarily a receiving TE.

Edited February 14, 2024 by reo

[AussieTitanFan08]

2 minutes ago, reo said:

 

You do know that's why I said "he's not that under sized" right? There are tight ends in the NFL who are starters who are his size or smaller. 6'4 240 probably with potential to gain mass isn't that crazy of a concept. Especially if he's primarily a receiving TE.

 

4th and 7th percentile is the definition of undersized (not remotely close to average)

[reo]

2 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

4th and 7th percentile is the definition of undersized (not remotely close to average)

 

..... which is why i didn't say he hadn't undersized. JFC sometimes I really wonder about ya'lls reading comprehension skills.

[AussieTitanFan08]

1 minute ago, reo said:

 

..... which is why i didn't say he hadn't undersized. JFC sometimes I really wonder about ya'lls reading comprehension skills.

 

In this case there is nothing wrong with my reading comprehension skills you specifically said he "was not that undersized" facts are at 4th and 7th percentile for height/weight for his position he is not just undersized he is extremely undersized.

[reo]

1 minute ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

 

In this case there is nothing wrong with my reading comprehension skills you specifically said he "was not that undersized" facts are at 4th and 7th percentile for height/weight for his position he is not just undersized he is extremely undersized.

 

We've currently have a TE of similar or smaller size and we had another one before that. That means we obviously don't have a problem with tight ends of his size or smaller therefore, he's not that undersized that the Titans wouldn't consider him.

[Nash]

I’m much more hopeful that Whyle can put on some muscle and become an inline TE.. as I recall last week, Ran and Callie have prototypes for positions.. maybe Chig can be a receiver in bunch formations, where his blocking on corners and safeties should be better than average. 

[9 Nines]

55 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Bowers is listed as 6'4 240 at 21 yrs old. Adding some muscle once in the NFL isn't that crazy of a thought. 

 

Chig is 6'3 240.

Jonnu Smith is 6'3 248

 

He's not that  under sized. 

 

Here is a close-up of a chigger:

[9 Nines]

On 2/11/2024 at 1:11 PM, ctm said:

NFL econ 101....

 

If at all possible, draft the expensive positions, sign the cheap ones in free agency.  Not the opposite.

 

I used to think the same in shoplifting, lift the expensive items and buy the cheaper items, but you will get into more trouble doing it that way if you get caught. 

Edited February 14, 2024 by 9 Nines

[Justafan]

59 minutes ago, reo said:

 

Bowers is listed as 6'4 240 at 21 yrs old. Adding some muscle once in the NFL isn't that crazy of a thought. 

 

Chig is 6'3 240.

Jonnu Smith is 6'3 248

 

He's not that  under sized. 

He’s listed at 230 and there are reports that he’s listed heavy. Look at the pics of him standing next to Gronk and try again. 

[reo]

3 minutes ago, Justafan said:

He’s listed at 230 and there are reports that he’s listed heavy. Look at the pics of him standing next to Gronk and try again. 

 

He's also listed as 240 in a lot of places. Until it's an official weight, I don't care to argue it. Hell, even if he tests lighter but plays heavier, I don't really care. He's 21. He can gain some mass fairly easily. 

 

Him standing next to Gronk is meaningless and anecdotal. 

[cenj]

1 hour ago, reo said:

He's not that  under sized. 

 

1 hour ago, reo said:

 

You do know that's why I said "he's not that under sized" right? 

 

1 hour ago, reo said:

 

..... which is why i didn't say he hadn't undersized. JFC sometimes I really wonder about ya'lls reading comprehension skills.

 

Uhhhhhhhhh...are you trying to gaslight @AussieTitanFan08?

 

As a 3rd party to this conversation, it's not Aussie with reading comprehension issues. Your posts are confusing and contradicting. Aussie countered you with clear and definitive facts, and your reasoning afterwards was nonsensical.

 

Take the L here and move on.

[Lars]

10 hours ago, Pragidealist said:

I'm not ignoring those things.   I'm reframing them.  If you read what Callahan says- he talks about wanting to limit the demands on the offensive line by being more explosive with the WR's.      You can look at that two ways. 1) He wants WRs.  2) He wants an explosive, offensive mismatch who can get free very early. 

 

It's absolutely true that 98% of the time that's a WR.   But - as the TE position evolves-  TE can start to fill that role with very limited, specific prospects.    And its the role they want - not the position. 

 

All that to say-  Bowers would have to fit that role  and its perfectly fine to say-  as a prospect he doesn't.      That you don't think he could get free fast enough or provide enough dynamicism to the offense to attract them.  Perfectly fair. 

 

I think its a very rare TE that would. Bowers kinda fits that in concept but its fair to say he's just not that dynamic to really be that. 

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