Trump (and others) indicted in GA

[LongTimeFan]

2 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Dawg you think we give a shit what Douchewitz says?

Harvard law professor vs alleged Tennessee internet lawyer posting to a Politics forum within a Titan's football website during billable hours time.

 

Hmmm?

[nine]

Dershowitz is trying to spin it as a bullshit First Amendment issue.

 

I'd be very interested to hear Dershowitz' argument that explains how organizing and implementing a plan that includes unauthorized removal and illegal hacking of voting machines is protected under the First Amendment.    

 

Or how the First Amendment also protects a strategy to falsely  manipulate the very fabric of the electoral college by orchestrating a nationwide network of "alternate electors" ....illegitimate self-proclaimed electors who signed and submitted fraudulent electoral certificates to Congress for certification as if they were actual legitimate electoral certificates.   That's not just fraud....that's straight-up counterfeiting.

 

At no point ever has any American  been indicted for believing or saying an election was stolen.    Even when  such statements are laughable and demonstrably false....they're still protected under the First Amendment.   

 

These people are being indicted for their roles and participation in developing and carrying out plans that included blatant and shamelessly illegal activity....including stealing and hacking voting machines and submitting fake electoral certificates to Congress.        First Amendment, my ass.

[ChesterCopperpot1]

32 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Harvard law professor vs alleged Tennessee internet lawyer posting to a Politics forum within a Titan's football website during billable hours time.

 

Hmmm?

Former Harvard law professor***

[nine]

39 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Harvard law professor vs alleged Tennessee internet lawyer posting to a Politics forum within a Titan's football website during billable hours time.

 

Hmmm?

Sadly, studies have show that  education and intelligence have little bearing on dissociation and cognitive dissonance .  
 

Hell, look at Rudy Giuliani:  he’s a highly educated lawyer who had a celebrated and tremendously successful career as the mayor of the biggest city in America.  
 

But that didn’t stop him from buying into the Trump  brand of bullshit….which led to Giuliani destroying an otherwise illustrious career and making  a mockery of his legacy.  

[begooode]

Dershowitz was recently sanctioned related to frivolous litigation in Kari Lake’s failed election challenges.  Not sure his opinions carry much significance of late.

Edited August 15, 2023 by begooode

[nine]

35 minutes ago, begooode said:

Dershowitz was recently sanctioned related to frivolous litigation in Kari Lake’s failed election challenges.  Not sure his opinions carry much significance of late.

Jesus Christ…I hadn’t heard about that.  
 

Kari Lake is another one of those freaking La-La Land Republicans whose obsession is completely detached from reality.  
 

 If Dershowitz has been actively supportive of her inane ramblings and paranoid fantasies….he’ll be hard-pressed to find any courtroom that will give him any credibility.  
 

And of course,  Fox News puts him front and center…because he tells their viewers whatever it is they want to hear, regardless whether it has any basis in reality.  

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 minute ago, nine said:

Jesus Christ…I hadn’t heard about that.  
 

Kari Lake is another one of those freaking La-La Land Republicans whose obsession is completely detached from reality.  
 

 If Dershowitz has been actively supportive of her inane ramblings and paranoid fantasies….he’ll be hard-pressed to find any courtroom that will give him any credibility.  
 

And of course,  Fox News puts him front and center…because he tells their viewers whatever it is they want to hear, regardless whether it has any basis in reality.  

Hell, they put a convicted traitor front and center. Dershowitz is small potatoes compared to Manafort. 

[Starkiller]

1 hour ago, nine said:

Dershowitz is trying to spin it as a bullshit First Amendment issue.

 

I'd be very interested to hear Dershowitz' argument that explains how organizing and implementing a plan that includes unauthorized removal and illegal hacking of voting machines is protected under the First Amendment.    

 

Or how the First Amendment also protects a strategy of orchestrating a nationwide network of "alternate electors" ....illegitimate self-proclaimed electors who signed and submitted fraudulent electoral certificates to Congress for certification as if they were actual legitimate electoral certificates.   That's not just fraud....that's straight-up counterfeiting.

 

At no point ever has any American  been indicted for believing or saying an election was stolen.    Even when  such statements are laughable and demonstrably false....they're still protected under the First Amendment.   

 

These people are being indicted for their roles and participation in developing and carrying out plans that included blatant and shamelessly illegal activity....including stealing and hacking voting machines and submitting fake electoral certificates to Congress.        First Amendment, my ass.

As long as “free speech” remains one of their top culture war messaging issues, they are going to bring all of their arguments back to it. Soon sending a convicted felon to prison will be part of “cancel culture”. They want to rile up the base as always in addition to defending the cult leader. 

[LongTimeFan]

2 hours ago, nine said:

Dershowitz is trying to spin it as a bullshit First Amendment issue.

 

I'd be very interested to hear Dershowitz' argument that explains how organizing and implementing a plan that includes unauthorized removal and illegal hacking of voting machines is protected under the First Amendment.    

 

Or how the First Amendment also protects a strategy of orchestrating a nationwide network of "alternate electors" ....illegitimate self-proclaimed electors who signed and submitted fraudulent electoral certificates to Congress for certification as if they were actual legitimate electoral certificates.   That's not just fraud....that's straight-up counterfeiting.

 

At no point ever has any American  been indicted for believing or saying an election was stolen.    Even when  such statements are laughable and demonstrably false....they're still protected under the First Amendment.   

 

These people are being indicted for their roles and participation in developing and carrying out plans that included blatant and shamelessly illegal activity....including stealing and hacking voting machines and submitting fake electoral certificates to Congress.        First Amendment, my ass.

Write him and ask.

[IsntLifeFunny]

12 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Write him and ask.

Why don't you respond to the point of his post? You've taken the time to read what Dershowitz said. Nine replied. What are your thoughts between the two and your understanding of the situation? 

[nine]

20 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Write him and ask.

I’m perfectly content to see how it plays out in court.  
 

  I have complete faith that the American judicial system will handle the cases with fairness, impartiality, and with a level of dignified conduct and decorum. 
 

I am far less confident that the defense will observe and respect the standards of courtroom conduct and decorum.  

[pat]

Dershowitz has Epstein child trafficking stink all over him, no I don’t give a shit what he thinks.

[reo]

23 minutes ago, pat said:

Dershowitz has Epstein child trafficking stink all over him, no I don’t give a shit what he thinks.

 

It's why he's so pro Trump. Trump has dirt on him.

[begooode]

Harvard University law professor and The Hill opinion contributor Alan Dershowitz had argued to Fox News ahead of Monday’s release of the Georgia indictment against Trump that the former president’s actions in challenging the election results in the state were “very similar” to those of Gore during the Florida recount, which ultimately decided the 2000 presidential race for George W. Bush. 

 

Fox News host Bill Hemmer asked Christie, one of Trump’s most vocal GOP critics, about Dershowitz’s argument that the same tactics were used for Gore’s challenge in Florida. 

 

“Except when Al Gore lost his legal challenges, he conceded the election,” Christie said. “Al Gore took it all the way to the United States Supreme Court. He availed himself of all the legal challenges.”  He said Gore disagreed with the Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision that ended the Florida recount and declared Bush the winner in the state and the election overall, but he backed off after the ruling was released. 

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4153468-christie-rejects-trump-gore-comparison-when-al-gore-lost-his-legal-challenges-he-conceded/

[Starkiller]