JRob Fired. Wyatt Confirmed.

[japan]

30 minutes ago, BlueThunder said:

The point: We are depleted and don't have enough picks to even put a lockdown defense on the field or an O line. Now, even if we DID have that, where are the adequate backups in case of injury? This has been my complaint all along. He does not plan for mishaps. Daley replacing Lewan? LT is THE most important position next to a QB, because as they say, it is the blind side for a QB. He has to make that block. When Brewer replaces Jones you don't know where in the fuck the ball is going. He could have picked up a decent back up center in the 3rd round instead of Willis. Or even a LT. Let's try this another way. You don't put cosmetics on a car, like rims, paint, etc. until the car is mechanically sound and you have money in the bank if it breaks down. Then, and only then do you throw money at things you really don't need but would be nice to have.  Jrobbed did not operate that way.  Wasted money and draft picks to acquire FAs that ended up doing nothing for us.  As I said, too many misses. 

4 weeks ago the defense was up there just below SF. It’s been ‘depleted’ by the staggering amount of injuries that we again have. Is that Robinsons’ fault? Maybe so, but I’m not quite sure how yet…

Edited December 17, 2022 by japan

[IsntLifeFunny]

22 minutes ago, japan said:

4 weeks ago the defense was up there just below SF. It’s been ‘depleted’ by the staggering amount of injuries that we again have. Is that Robinsons’ fault? Maybe so, but I’m not quite sure how yet…

It's everything I've outlined. It added up and regardless of the team being depleted relying on Lewan with Daley as the backup (trade) it's on Robinson that we have put out one of the worst offenses in the league and allowed our franchise QB to get murdered this year. 

 

I do wonder how it will reflect if Radunz takes the LT position and looks even average. Daley has single handily thrown off the entire offense multiple games with complete ineptitude. 

[oldschool]

2 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I don't think his drafting was a bigger hit to him than the FA moves that led to AJ being traded because his agent knew we couldn't afford the franchise tag. It all plays its role.

 

Wilson, Clowney, and Beasely were massive busts. The two rushers took up 25 million and didnt get a single sack. The trade for Julio put us in cap hell leading to the restructure of Tannehill that left him with the largest cap hit of any player in the league this year. Drafting Farley right after Wilson...etc. 

 

Still, he got extended because his contract was lined up with Vrabel's. I think trading AJ was and is a big deal. First off he's a superstar, and second off none of it happens without the terrible contracts to Beasely, Clowney, and Julio. I also think something behind the scenes happened besides all of that and she dropped the hammer. I don't blame her. It doesn't mean it was optimal in terms of the Titans season this year. 

 

Lets be real, CLowney was 100% a Vrabel ask. Putting that one all on Jrob is nuts. It was worth the risk. 

[oldschool]

2 hours ago, Justafan said:

This is cherry picking.  He's put a top ten roster together every year since he's been here.  Yes, he missed on some premium picks.  He also nailed Derrick Henry and AJ in the second along with Byard, Brown, Landry, Long, Hooker, Davis, Fulton, etc and probably a few more I'm missing plus the ones from this year which potentially has a bright future.  

 

If you want to argue he's missed on 1st round picks... fine.  He has.  Wilson was terrible and so was Dodd.  Corey Davis was over drafted and he's let some guys walk too.  BUT... to use that to try and say he has a bad draft record is ridiculous.  

 

Cherry picking to show he's 2/8 or 3/9 on 1st rounders and has tons of misses in the 2nd and 3rd as well? His track record and the state of the roster is why he got fired so lets stop pretending he was some elite GM who took the team to the promised land. He lucked into Tannehill and coupled with a bad division, had a good run here.

[OILERMAN]

If this team was healthy they would absolutely be in better position than they were as far as being a SB contender. Injuries is what has done this team in, not bad roster construction.  

 

The defense would be elite, especially if you add Landry into the front 4 rotation. They can stop the run with 6 or 7 and rush the passer as well as anyone with only 4. 

 

Adding a healthy Lewan and healthy pass catchers(Burks, Philips, McMath, Woods, Chig, Hooper and Hilliard) to this offense and they could absolutely be efficient enough to contend with this defense. 

 

Robinson was most definitely fired for something we don't know about. Or worse Amy is as bad as Bud and overreacted to getting heckled in Philly and the recent losing streak. She's shown no signs of acting like Bud so I assume the former reason. 

[OILERMAN]

Pick any team in the league, they are littered with misses and mistakes, it's impossible not to miss. SF traded 3 1st rounders for a scrub QB, KC drafted a 1st round bust RB and traded away their star WR too, Seattle made a ridiculous trade for a box safety and paid him insanely....

[IsntLifeFunny]

25 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Lets be real, CLowney was 100% a Vrabel ask. Putting that one all on Jrob is nuts. It was worth the risk. 

I don't care what it was when it was next to Beasely and 25 million ended up with 0 sacks. He signed off on it. 

[oldschool]

23 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

If this team was healthy they would absolutely be in better position than they were as far as being a SB contender. Injuries is what has done this team in, not bad roster construction.  

 

The defense would be elite, especially if you add Landry into the front 4 rotation. They can stop the run with 6 or 7 and rush the passer as well as anyone with only 4. 

 

Adding a healthy Lewan and healthy pass catchers(Burks, Philips, McMath, Woods, Chig, Hooper and Hilliard) to this offense and they could absolutely be efficient enough to contend with this defense. 

 

Robinson was most definitely fired for something we don't know about. Or worse Amy is as bad as Bud and overreacted to getting heckled in Philly and the recent losing streak. She's shown no signs of acting like Bud so I assume the former reason. 

 

This honestly the most homerish take you've ever had. Having a healthy Lewan doesn't fix the OL which is bad. WR is still a mess Even if the CB group were healthy, they have very little outside of Fulton. But yes, lets rely on guys who can't stay healthy and then claim the roster is fine!

[oldschool]

20 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I don't care what it was when it was next to Beasely and 25 million ended up with 0 sacks. He signed off on it. 

 

Beasley was a bad signing, Clowney just didn't work out. They are not the same type of move.

[Justafan]

46 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Cherry picking to show he's 2/8 or 3/9 on 1st rounders and has tons of misses in the 2nd and 3rd as well? His track record and the state of the roster is why he got fired so lets stop pretending he was some elite GM who took the team to the promised land. He lucked into Tannehill and coupled with a bad division, had a good run here.

It's a top ten roster.  They haven't been able to stay healthy and that's a valid criticism but his draft record is pretty good.  You want to argue he isn't an elite GM?  Okay, fine i'll buy that.  He hasn't won a superbowl and there have been misses and questionable moves.  Name the last GM that produced a winning season 6 times in a row and went to the playoffs, while winning his division 3 times in a row and got canned for it.  Then we can have an honest conversation about his flaws as a GM and how that led to him being fired.  

[AvgJoe]

6 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

This honestly the most homerish take you've ever had. Having a healthy Lewan doesn't fix the OL which is bad. WR is still a mess Even if the CB group were healthy, they have very little outside of Fulton. But yes, lets rely on guys who can't stay healthy and then claim the roster is fine!

I’ll add that it doesn’t help that the offense is stuck in 1994 and cannot produce consistently. I hope Amy is looking around and seeing teams like SF still function with the last pick of the draft at QB. Vrabel’s offensive philosophy will end this teams season early every year unless he changes it

[IsntLifeFunny]

11 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

Beasley was a bad signing, Clowney just didn't work out. They are not the same type of move.

Of course they aren't the same type of move. It doesnt matter though because they cost 25 million for zero sacks. 

[Mythos27]

5 minutes ago, BlueThunder said:

The point: We are depleted and don't have enough picks to even put a lockdown defense on the field or an O line. Now, even if we DID have that, where are the adequate backups in case of injury? This has been my complaint all along. He does not plan for mishaps. Daley replacing Lewan? LT is THE most important position next to a QB, because as they say, it is the blind side for a QB. He has to make that block. When Brewer replaces Jones you don't know where in the fuck the ball is going. He could have picked up a decent back up center in the 3rd round instead of Willis. Or even a LT. Let's try this another way. You don't put cosmetics on a car, like rims, paint, etc. until the car is mechanically sound and you have money in the bank if it breaks down. Then, and only then do you throw money at things you really don't need but would be nice to have.  Jrobbed did not operate that way.  Wasted money and draft picks to acquire FAs that ended up doing nothing for us.  As I said, too many misses. 

We know he didn't get enough talent particularly along the line. That's not a point I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that the first round miss thing is misleading as it relates to the amount of talent he brought in overall. If you're not interested in having that conversation then fine but in that case why bother quoting me.

[IsntLifeFunny]

8 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

We know he didn't get enough talent particularly along the line. That's not a point I'm arguing. What I'm saying is that the first round miss thing is misleading as it relates to the amount of talent he brought in overall. If you're not interested in having that conversation then fine but in that case why bother quoting me.

For real, stop quoting him. Look at that steamline of thought without a single paragraph. Dude is a a dum dum. 

[TerryBoats]

4 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

How is it "not the point"? There crux of the first round miss thing is that he didn't get enough value out of his first round picks, which is true. But you can't then ignore clear 1st round talents that he drafted outside of the first round like Brown, Byard, Henry, etc. Yes, the expectations are higher for first round picks (because they have a higher hit rate) but a first round talent is a first round talent no matter where you got them. The only real tangible value to drafting a guy in the first that I can think of is the 5th year option. It sounds insane but J-Rob isn't necessarily gone because of his first round misses; he's gone because he didn't hit enough or where he needed to. Put it this way, if Radunz hits and keeps Tannehill clean by solidifying the LT spot, how different does this season go? Does he still get fired? I doubt it. The guy has a really good eye for talent, just not along the OL lol.

The W/L record is the ultimate unit of measurement for how the roster stacks up against the rest of the league.  There are some potentially fatal issues with his roster and cap management, but the draft picks are on the verge of nitpickitng (his issues apply to many teams drafting at the end of each round).  He drafted 5 All Pros (putting AJ in here) within the span of 4 years, and acquired plenty of "good" players for the team as well.  People are just looking at their issues in a vacuum , instead of comparing them to the rest of the league and realizing how normal it is to constantly strike out in the draft and go through rough stretches

 

Edited December 17, 2022 by TerryBoats