Jamalisms Posted May 10, 2022 Report Share Posted May 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, Titans279 said: Elon buying Twitter can be a net benefit if it causes Twitter to cease being the main thing that drives what the media covers and talks about. If he's primarily looking to make money, he'll only lean into that stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Musk had announced he will / would remove twitter's ban on Trump. Surprising nobody with a brain, but clearly telegraphing that the direction he wants to take the platform is away from reasonable moderation towards doors wide-open misinformation, bullying and bot cultivation. Twitter is already a shit hole and it’s going to get much worse if Elon is at the helm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, TitansFan777 said: Twitter is already a shit hole and it’s going to get much worse if Elon is at the helm. It's great for news if you work to limit your feed to the things you actually want to see. But there's a hell of a lot of bullshit on there and it'll only get worse. More importantly, the negative impacts of Twitter will grow even more exponentially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Trump getting back on Twitter is bad for Trump and his supporters, he embarrasses himself and them. They all wanted him to stop tweeting TF_Titan, and smokeater 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitansFan777 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 23 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: Trump getting back on Twitter is bad for Trump and his supporters, he embarrasses himself and them. They all wanted him to stop tweeting I doubt it moves the needle much. I doubt there are many voters who will be repulsed by something he says now that weren’t repulsed by what he’s said in the past. And I doubt he’s going to gain too many more voters on the platform either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 14 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Musk had announced he will / would remove twitter's ban on Trump. Surprising nobody with a brain, but clearly telegraphing that the direction he wants to take the platform is away from reasonable moderation towards doors wide-open misinformation, bullying and bot cultivation. @oldschool wasnt it you who said this was a conspiracy theory? https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/10/musk-talk-twitter/?utm_source=reddit.com oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 8 hours ago, TitansFan777 said: I doubt it moves the needle much. I doubt there are many voters who will be repulsed by something he says now that weren’t repulsed by what he’s said in the past. And I doubt he’s going to gain too many more voters on the platform either. Oh I don't think it moves the needle much but it is embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 hours ago, luvyablue256 said: @oldschool wasnt it you who said this was a conspiracy theory? https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/10/musk-talk-twitter/?utm_source=reddit.com No. Personally I dont think banning Trump permanently was a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Trump being on Twitter is not the problem. The bots and the algorithms that drive content feeds are the problem. If he can improve that it will be a net positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamalisms Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, TF_Titan said: Trump being on Twitter is not the problem. The bots and the algorithms that drive content feeds are the problem. If he can improve that it will be a net positive. Giving dangerous people a platform is always a problem but an action of denying them a platform needs to have good cause ... and there's no reasonable assessment of history that could suggest Twitter banning Trump was anything but done with good cause. The idea that it's not a problem is simply a denial of Trump's history, the history of how media covers Trump tweeting and the history of how his tweets are perceived and propagated through networks by algorithms and also people in general. It absolutely will magnify his voice and his influence. To believe otherwise is almost as laughable as the idea that he'll somehow be more responsible this time. Yes, algorithms are a problem and there have been studies done on both Twitter and Facebook (and elsewhere besides) that show how algorithms propagate conservative and fringe conspiracies more than others ... so, sure, it would be great if Musk could improve that. Is there any reason to believe he will, however? I haven't seen him claim that as a focus. Did I miss it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, luvyablue256 said: @oldschool wasnt it you who said this was a conspiracy theory? https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/05/10/musk-talk-twitter/?utm_source=reddit.com The conspiracy I heard you talk about was that this was all a rightwing and Russian funded op to get Trump back on Twitter. Just because Trump would no longer banned doesn't mean that the conspiracy is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 10 hours ago, Titans279 said: The conspiracy I heard you talk about was that this was all a rightwing and Russian funded op to get Trump back on Twitter. Just because Trump would no longer banned doesn't mean that the conspiracy is true. Go through the "Five Why's" of Trump returning to Twitter and let us know what the final conclusion is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Jamalisms said: Giving dangerous people a platform is always a problem but an action of denying them a platform needs to have good cause ... and there's no reasonable assessment of history that could suggest Twitter banning Trump was anything but done with good cause. The idea that it's not a problem is simply a denial of Trump's history, the history of how media covers Trump tweeting and the history of how his tweets are perceived and propagated through networks by algorithms and also people in general. It absolutely will magnify his voice and his influence. To believe otherwise is almost as laughable as the idea that he'll somehow be more responsible this time. Yes, algorithms are a problem and there have been studies done on both Twitter and Facebook (and elsewhere besides) that show how algorithms propagate conservative and fringe conspiracies more than others ... so, sure, it would be great if Musk could improve that. Is there any reason to believe he will, however? I haven't seen him claim that as a focus. Did I miss it? Musk could be spending his money attempting to solve real problems in America but he chooses this shit instead, and people need to fucking grow up and smell the goddamn coffee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiscotitansfan Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, luvyablue256 said: Musk could be spending his money attempting to solve real problems in America but he chooses this shit instead, and people need to fucking grow up and smell the goddamn coffee. Did you just see this previous space race? People with too much money aren't going to solve real world problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted May 13, 2022 Report Share Posted May 13, 2022 https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/12/twitter-market-cap-has-dropped-to-9-billion-below-musk-purchase-price.html As Elon Musk pursues ownership of Twitter, shares of the social media company are dropping, suggesting some concern among investors that the deal won’t reach the finish line. Twitter has slid nearly 13% since reaching its high for the year in late April. As of market close on Thursday, the stock traded at $45.08, well below the $54.20 that Musk agreed to pay on April 27. The difference represents more than $9 billion in market value. Though Twitter’s board approved the purchase, it could still take months for the deal to close, and there’s no guarantee that it will. Musk would have to pay a $1 billion breakup fee should he choose to walk away. The Tesla CEO is worth more than $220 billion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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