Rogue Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I can’t see us doing a no-fly zone, at least not yet. I think Reo’s idea of some safe zones is a much better idea. I don't see that happening either. Even if troops and equipment was not moved in and out (which certainly would be considered engaged in war effort), what exactly is a "safe zone" in Russian occupied Ukraine? Seems too provocative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rogue said: I don't see that happening either. Even if troops and equipment was not moved in and out (which certainly would be considered engaged in war effort), what exactly is a "safe zone" in Russian occupied Ukraine? Seems too provocative. We discussed options in Poland and Lithuania. It would essentially be a resupply depot for the military once they behave to start surrendering cities. I said the same thing about safe zones in Ukraine. Edited February 28, 2022 by IsntLifeFunny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 17 minutes ago, tgo said: I imagine an escalation in efforts/tactics throughout the week.....or until it's done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: We discussed options in Poland and Lithuania. It would essentially be a resupply depot for the military once they behave to start surrendering cities. I said the same thing about safe zones in Ukraine. They could set up something in other countries, for a while, I just don't see it happening in Ukraine. That's a pretty blurred line between assistance and engagement and we know how Putin would view it, and he wouldn't be wrong. They could probably get away with a humanitarian safe zone, at least until Ukraine falls, but as soon as troops or equipment is moving in and out....that's a part of the war effort. I just don't see it happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rogue said: They could set up something in other countries, for a while, I just don't see it happening in Ukraine. That's a pretty blurred line between assistance and engagement and we know how Putin would view it, and he wouldn't be wrong. They could probably get away with a humanitarian safe zone, at least until Ukraine falls, but as soon as troops or equipment is moving in and out....that's a part of the war effort. I just don't see it happening. I can appreciate that. I think some of it depends on the lengths Putin goes to take Ukraine. If he starts indiscriminately carpet bombing cities I could see safe zones where military goes in and out. I agree though I don’t really see it either. But either way it’s still a much better option than a no-fly zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 54 minutes ago, tgo said: bomb the entire line... woolfolksunclesuncle 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolfolksunclesuncle Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 FUCK RUSSIA AND FUCK PUTIN. I can't even explain how much respect I have for the Ukrainian people. They're totally overmatched and have stood their ground throughout. No matter what happens, the Ukrainian people go down in my personal record book as a land of BAMFers. Also, we need to perform a rescue operation to get President Zelenskyy out of the conflict, give this man American citizenship, and put his ass on the next presidential ballot as a Demopublican (so both sides can feel like they won.) cenj, and NashvilleNinja 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 minute ago, woolfolksunclesuncle said: FUCK RUSSIA AND FUCK PUTIN. I can't even explain how much respect I have for the Ukrainian people. They're totally overmatched and have stood their ground throughout. No matter what happens, the Ukrainian people go down in my personal record book as a land of BAMFers. Also, we need to perform a rescue operation to get President Zelenskyy out of the conflict, give this man American citizenship, and put his ass on the next presidential ballot as a Demopublican (so both sides can feel like they won.) You'd still suck off a Russian woolfolksunclesuncle, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post woolfolksunclesuncle Posted February 28, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, headhunter said: You'd still suck off a Russian Well yeah.....he'd have to pay in Bitcoin, though. I have a "NO RUBLES" policy at the moment. smokeater, NashvilleNinja, TF_Titan, and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 1 hour ago, tgo said: I say only do one over Kyiv. Tell the Russians that NATO will impose one if they start carpet bombing the city, so to just stay away from the city itself. Could effectively achieve a no fly zone through negotiations without having to move to deploy jets/drones/Patriot Missiles/etc. It's clear that Biden and the WH do not want to do this though, so I would be very surprised if it happened. More likely that the EU could initiate such an action. I guess you want our jets to fight the Russian jets and start WWIII, the American public will not stand for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Biden Has Done a Very Good Job February 28, 2022 at 2:17 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 60 Comments Jonathan Last: “Biden did not draw lines in the sand. He did not personalize the conflict. He did not turn himself into the star of the show. He did not allow anyone, anywhere, to believe that this was about America.” “Since the invasion, Biden has been a full partner with our European allies. He has not pushed them into decisions. He recognized that having a united front was more important than any particular aspect of the response. And after only four days Europe came to the conclusion—on its own—that it would do everything the American foreign policy establishment had wanted. Biden understood that these countries needed to come to the decision to fight back on their own, and not be publicly cajoled into it.” “Biden also understood that the EU and NATO are actually very powerful allies and that when they work in concert with the United States, we represent a significant geopolitical force.” IsntLifeFunny, Come on Titans, and ChemEngr79 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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9 Nines Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 Putin, from his peak, and America, at its low, have reversed: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cenj Posted February 28, 2022 Report Share Posted February 28, 2022 8 minutes ago, tgo said: Oof...that's definitely an escalation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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