Starkiller Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: For a while I thought it would be best for the Dem nominee to let Trump off the hook so we didn’t start a war or see a huge rise in sectarian violence. I changed my mind before yesterday, but yesterday cemented it. They need to go after him, his family, and any other sycophants who have been involved in federal crimes. Trump is going to pardon his his kids. But NY state might get them. Edited January 7, 2021 by Starkiller IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: They're afraid of the Trumpists both physically and politically. Republicans are huge pussies and always have been. That's why I scoff at people who talk about "moderate" republicans as if they are a thing. Most just pretend to not love shit like what happened yesterday so they won't be ostracized from polite society and the ones who actually don't like that stuff are too pussy to do anything about it. What good are these assholes? A line has been drawn as of yesterday. Moderates have to choose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: For a while I thought it would be best for the Dem nominee to let Trump off the hook so we didn’t start a war or see a huge rise in sectarian violence. I changed my mind before yesterday, but yesterday cemented it. They need to go after him, his family, and any other sycophants who have been involved in federal crimes. A pardon for all the Trump kids is coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) @LongTimeFancouldn't get laid at a women's prison with a fist full of pardons... Edited January 7, 2021 by unauthorizedcinnamon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, ctm said: A pardon for all the Trump kids is coming. Then they’ll be forced to testify at his trial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: It's like I told oldschool yesterday; a lot of those people that you think are moderate "good" republicans were probably at home gleefully watching what those traitors were doing. Then the next day at work they'll be like "wow, I can't believe what those crazy people did". Nah. They were silent in the name of party. I've gotten plenty of texts from Republicans who were abhored by what they saw yesterday. Now they have to choose what side they are on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, ctm said: A pardon for all the Trump kids is coming. Winter Pardon is coming rns90, OILERMAN, and nine 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, oldschool said: Nah. They were silent in the name of party. I've gotten plenty of texts from Republicans who were abhored by what they saw yesterday. Now they have to choose what side they are on. Now that I think about it, strictly from a political point of view, a vote to censure Trump would force all these congressional republicans to choose and go on the record. It doesn't get Trump out of office but that isn't likely to begin with. It's certainly a vote that especially republican senators would not want to cast. But it would fully expose the dividing line between the Trumpers and traditional republicans. Edited January 7, 2021 by ctm IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, ctm said: Now that I think about it, strictly from a political point of view, a vote to censure Trump would force all these congressional republicans to choose and go on the record. It doesn't get Trump out of office but that isn't likely to begin with. It's certainly a vote that especially republican senators would not want to cast. But no one cares about a censure. It’s pretty much toothless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Starkiller said: But no one cares about a censure. It’s pretty much toothless. I realize that. But it puts the 22 republican senators up for election in 2022 on the record. It's not a vote they want to cast. oldschool, IsntLifeFunny, Mythos27, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, ctm said: I realize that. But it puts the 22 republican senators up for election in 2022 on the record. It's not a vote they want to cast. Scott Jennings who is a die hard conservative thinks those who objected after the attack will pay a heavy price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 The GOP is essentially dead as we once knew it. Trump has made it impossible for them to continue their charade in the name of democracy. That all ended yesterday. The ones left with any integrity whatsoever have to distance themselves from der Fuhrer and re-invent the party lines. For some it's too late. They have lost all credibility. If the ones remaining have any political ambition beyond being a junior trumper, they need to vote to remove this crazy bastard instead of pandering to his base. The kid gloves are off and we're playing for blood now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, oldschool said: Scott Jennings who is a die hard conservative thinks those who objected after the attack will pay a heavy price. As they should. ChemEngr79 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, oldschool said: Scott Jennings who is a die hard conservative thinks those who objected after the attack will pay a heavy price. I think about the issue this way: Pence won't invoke the 25th. That's out. If impeachment is tried, it will fail because the question for republican is.....do you want Trump out of office? They've already proved once they will vote no and just use the excuse that he's leaving in a few days anyway. Final alternative is censure. Then the question for republicans is......do you approve or disapprove of what Trump did? Make them vote. Edited January 7, 2021 by ctm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted January 7, 2021 Report Share Posted January 7, 2021 So, if the House impeaches Trump and McConnell refuses to bring it up for a vote before January 20th, what happens? Does the trial just go away? Can they try Trump after he leaves office? Is there any point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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