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I’m unapologetically conservative, at least fiscally, but these people are fucking crazy. They are a real threat and should be taken very seriously. I’ve heard about Qanon for a while now but I’ve nev

The police need to start firing tear gas and rubber bullets like they used on peaceful protesters over the summer.

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4 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

I disagree with them but I had no issue when people were harassing the dick heads trying to take our healthcare away in restaurants and the like so I can't exactly get on my high horse about this one. One of the side-effects of being an elected official is you have to put up with hearing some not so nice things from people that disagree with you. The one thing I didn't like was the physical intimidation. Other than that It's whatever. 

It is one thing to harass a politician for not doing their job or disagree with their politics.

 

It is another when citizens are going at it in the airport.

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13 minutes ago, Oilertattoo said:

It is one thing to harass a politician for not doing their job or disagree with their politics.

 

It is another when citizens are going at it in the airport.

Why is this any more wrong? They're all sharing a space that they're entitled to be in. It's no more illegal or amoral to harass a politician at an airport than it is at TGI Fridays. 

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5 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Why is this any more wrong? They're all sharing a space that they're entitled to be in. It's no more illegal or amoral to harass a politician at an airport than it is at TGI Fridays. 

In my opinion, a politician chose and was elected to do a job.  Telling them you disagree is part of it.  I do not agree with threatening them with anything other than not voting for them.

 

In the other situation, we have civilians publicly exposing their hate for each others politics in an airport.  Neither will win the argument and the police should intervene.  Neither side is right for doing such.

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2 hours ago, tgo said:


I dunno man, they seem angrier and more aggrieved now - backed into a corner if you will. 

True, but now they’re expected across the board and have lost a lot of sympathy from the casual observer who thought it was all a game. Well, sympathy may not be the right word, but they’ve lost their cover. The random women and idiots who were actually LARPing are like oh shit these people are being arrested by the FBI? Well good luck to them and God bless their hearts. 

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31 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Why is this any more wrong? They're all sharing a space that they're entitled to be in. It's no more illegal or amoral to harass a politician at an airport than it is at TGI Fridays. 


While I can’t really go into detail on your TGI Friday’s part (I would need an example and can’t search right now...was that the McConnell thing?), the answer is that yes, this situation in the airport is more wrong.

 

Those people have no right to go about how they are at the airport. If they were escorted out by police, the airport/police would be totally within their rights to do so and these foaming idiots would prob be shot down in court ASAP if they chose to go that route because airports are not places where gatherings and free expression apply in my non-legal scholar opinion.

 

Depending on the nature/historical use of the TGI Friday’s example, it may be a public forum. For example, malls/parking lots are considered public forums even though they are private property. Because of that, the owner may be forced to allow public gatherings and free expression. 

 

Still doesn’t mean everyone has to be an asshole and up in your grill, however, and certain language is indeed punishable like fighting words and such. 

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1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Good point. 

 

I think we need to come to grips with the fact that the sectarian violence that the USA used to save other countries from has arrived here. And it happened because we failed to realize Trump's fealty to a foreign adversary. 

 

Think about this... if Vladimir Putin really wanted to do long term damage to the U.S., how else would he have done it? 

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1 minute ago, luvyablue256 said:

I think we need to come to grips with the fact that the sectarian violence that the USA used to save other countries from has arrived here. And it happened because we failed to realize his fealty to a foreign adversary. 

I think we need to recognize that it has been here all along. Again, Timothy McVeigh was one of these anti-government types.
 

These militia groups have been around for a long time. Trump just gave them a figurehead they could all rally around.

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