TerryBoats Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Mythos27 said: Thanks for clarifying. As long as we're not making definitive long-term statements about a very young player's future, I'm good. I personally don't subscribe to the belief that preseason is "meaningless" and you can't draw anything from it but I do try to temper that with restraint from using the preseason to predict regular season outcomes. That said, I certainly saw a lot of concerning things in that game in areas that do tend to follow teams into the regular season. CB play was ALARMING. I'm not saying that we'll necessarily be terrible in the secondary this year but there is cause for concern IMO. I have faith in Saleh's D, and these CBs were much better last year than they've shown so far (particularly Flott). They have good length, the way he prefers the D ( Sauce was on the HOF route until he left, when he just became "good") so I feel like he has what he needs for a some great D Saleh's D was the best in the NFL at the of his stint with the Jets, and then their D game quickly became one of the worst once he left which suggests it wasn't all due to talent. They were 7-10 in 2023 while scoring under 16 PPG, so I think the floor/ceiling here is better than people expect, especially if Ward plays well. Edited August 21 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted August 21 Report Share Posted August 21 5 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: I have faith in Saleh's D, and these CBs were much better last year than they've shown so far (particularly Flott). They have good length, the way he prefers the D ( Sauce was on the HOF route until he left, when he just became "good") so I feel like he has what he needs for a some great D Saleh's D was the best in the NFL at the of his stint with the Jets, and then their D game quickly became one of the worst once he left which suggests it wasn't all due to talent. They were 7-10 in 2023 while scoring under 16 PPG, so I think the floor/ceiling here is better than people expect, especially if Ward plays well. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Sauce make his name playing primarily press-man coverage vs the Jets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 I'm thinking Tate is a gamer. He's got moves when the bullets start flying that might not show in practice. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 8 minutes ago, Number9 said: I'm thinking Tate is a gamer. He's got moves when the bullets start flying that might not show in practice. He also excels on deeper stuff while they have been working on underneath for most of the joint practices. titanruss, and Number9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted August 22 Report Share Posted August 22 OILERMAN, Strunk'sDessert, and Supernope 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted August 23 Author Report Share Posted August 23 17 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: "You gotta know about the batman building. It's the one that looks like batman." Quality content, right there. Mythos27, and Supernope 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted August 23 Report Share Posted August 23 I didn't watch it but I don't think he wants the house, he just has to do this TV show where they act like they want to sell it to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 If he doesn't start showing up he will belong in another broke WR thread. He has been a massive let down Supernope, and oldschool 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted August 24 Author Report Share Posted August 24 7 hours ago, Somedude said: If he doesn't start showing up he will belong in another broke WR thread. He has been a massive let down begooode, Supernope, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, OILERMAN said: Tate was not comparable to him in any way other than his draft selection. Chase played alongside Justin Jefferson in college - who already had 1,400 yards as a rookie in the NFL - and arguably outshined him despite being younger. Tate played across from a WR of that caliber on OSU, and was nowhere close to him in terms of talent, production, or impact on the offense. As I pointed out, Tate was a complete afterthought to defenses in college and was ineffective against quality teams. This was all supported by the statistics and visual evidence. He's barely above average WR height, has fairly average athleticism, and weighs 190 pounds - people really need to temper their expectations. Edited August 24 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 4 hours ago, OILERMAN said: “Peyton Manning threw a bunch of interceptions as a rookie too,” for wide receivers. while true, it’s the outlier. We’ll see how it goes. TerryBoats, and Somedude 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 5 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: Would not be the first time and I came back. Maybe next time be named Jason Vorhees. I won't stay dead! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fry said: “Peyton Manning threw a bunch of interceptions as a rookie too,” for wide receivers. while true, it’s the outlier. We’ll see how it goes. This was the case that people made for Will Levis Edited August 24 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted August 24 Report Share Posted August 24 Much ado about nothing. He dropped a ball and Ward sailed the other target. Ward not navigating the pocket is much more worrisome than Tate's preseason stat line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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