AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, AvgJoe said: Just putting out something I heard and Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald put out today in writing: Akeem Mesidor’s camp is now thinking he goes early round 2. Regardless of who we pick at #4 even if it is an edge, run that card to the podium for him and double dip at #35 Did Jackson say whether it was the injury history or the age being more of a factor in Mesidor slipping out of the first round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 6 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: I don't think so. I think Reese goes to the Jets- he's more of a complete player and less a specialist. I think Bailey falls and that's why KC and Dal are looking at trade scenarios. Dal bc Jerry Jones runs that show and KC bc they recorded just 35 sacks last season, ranking near the bottom of the league. With Mahomes and the KC offense, pass rush specialists means a lot more. Its a finishing piece to a problem. I think the highest he goes is 6 and only bc of particular needs/opportunity. Now teams do stupid things all the time so who knows.. but yeah. I thnk Bailey falls bc he's a specialists pass rusher. The last specialist pass rusher I can think of who went that high was Von Miller, and even that comes with an asterisk — Denver was a 3-4 team, the role fit his limitations by design, and Miller was a historically freakish athlete, 99th percentile speed and burst, 100th percentile agility. Bailey is elite. He's not that. So yeah, Bailey falls. Not because he's a bad player — he's going to wreck someone's backfield for a decade. But teams picking in the top five are buying cornerstones, not finishing pieces. The one team that could make the finishing piece argument with a straight face is KC, because when you have Mahomes you're not rebuilding, you're closing a window, and a dominant pass rusher changes the calculus. But even there you're talking about trading up to 6 at best, not 3, and you're still paying cornerstone price for a specialist. Teams do dumb things. Jerry Jones especially. So anything's possible. But if Bailey goes top 5 it'll be the exception that proves the rule, not the rule. It has been directly reported by Todd McShay that he has been told the Cowboys have been talking with the Cardinals. They aren't investigating trading for Bailey if he falls they are investigating a trade to make sure they can get ahead of the Titans who would potentially take him. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 Just now, AussieTitanFan08 said: It has been directly reported by Todd McShay that he has been told the Cowboys have been talking with the Cardinals. They aren't investigating trading for Bailey if he falls they are investigating a trade to make sure they can get ahead of the Titans who would potentially take him. Like I said.. teams do stupid things all the time- particularly Jerry Jones japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 4 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: Like I said.. teams do stupid things all the time- particularly Jerry Jones And yet you still won't admit the likelihood is that Bailey is going in the top 5. headhunter, and japan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChosenTitan Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 5 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: And yet you still won't admit the likelihood is that Bailey is going in the top 5. If he makes it to 4 Titans are taking him Supernope 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: PK has been adamant for a while now that the Titans are NOT fans of R Mason Thomas. Maybe because he is 15th percentile or worse in every physical measurable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pragidealist said: Ok so you don't disagree that Bailey is weak against the run and you don't disagree that he's a situational pass rusher.. what we disagree with is if the Titans should spend a top 5 pick on a situational anything. He was okay against the run. Certainly not great but nothing to be overly concerned about. The same criticism was made of Landry, and defending the run ended up being the only thing he was good at. He is very good beating blockers and highly athletic, which bodes well for his potential to improve. I just don't see anyone close to him so I'd take my chances that Saleh will figure it out. Edited April 5 by TerryBoats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Callidus said: Maybe because he is 15th percentile or worse in every physical measurable? From memory PK was saying that even before the combine testing, was one of those ones you got the impression someone in the building had told him not to waste time pushing him as a potential option for them. Edited April 5 by AussieTitanFan08 Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 37 minutes ago, AussieTitanFan08 said: And yet you still won't admit the likelihood is that Bailey is going in the top 5. Didn't I just admit it could happen if a team is stupid like Jerry Jones? japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 26 minutes ago, TerryBoats said: He was okay against the run. Certainly not great but nothing to be overly concerned about. The same criticism was made of Landry, and defending the run ended up being the only thing he was good at. He is very good beating blockers and highly athletic, which bodes well for his potential to improve. I just don't see anyone close to him so I'd take my chances that Saleh will figure it out. "Saleh will figure it out" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there. If Saleh is good enough to fix Bailey's early-down limitations, he's good enough to know you don't burn a top-4 pick to create them. And "okay against the run" is the tell — nobody describes a cornerstone defender that way. You say okay when you're rationalizing, not evaluating. I'm not saying Bailey isn't good. I'm saying okay isn't top-4 money. FireInTheHole, and japan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TeamRamrod Posted April 5 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 5 When was the last time you heard about a team having regrets about their top pass rusher because of their work against the run anyway? IsntLifeFunny, FireInTheHole, Omar, and 8 others 9 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, TeamRamrod said: When was the last time you heard about a team having regrets about their top pass rusher because of their work against the run anyway? When was the last time you saw a team drafting a pass rusher specialist in the top 5? As I said- they dont do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pragidealist Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 1 minute ago, TeamRamrod said: When was the last time you heard about a team having regrets about their top pass rusher because of their work against the run anyway? ANd I would say Giants have some questions.. since they are drafting #5 overall this year after taking carter last year and were in the bottom this year in run defense. japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AussieTitanFan08 Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 7 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said: When was the last time you heard about a team having regrets about their top pass rusher because of their work against the run anyway? Bailey is literally the description of everything Borgonzi and Saleh have been calling for all offseason. japan, titanskick8851, and KogaShuko 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 5 Report Share Posted April 5 8 minutes ago, Pragidealist said: When was the last time you saw a team drafting a pass rusher specialist in the top 5? As I said- they dont do it. You act like he's yannick ngakoue out there AussieTitanFan08 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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