This site and head coaches?!

[Callidus]

1 hour ago, titanruss said:

The only thing I will agree with OP and croation about is that this site justifies nearly every move as being fine or not a big deal, or inevitable.  Then bashes people that think they are bad moves or think more could have been done. 

 

But Vrabel wanted out. Personally, I think Amy shouldnt have fired him, and then forced him to quit on the team. Then she could have not had to pay him and/or kept him from working again until someone bought out his contract. That's how you do petty. 

 

Also, there was an argument here that Vrabel (like some hilariously still try to claim with Fisher and Mularkey) wasn't actually fired... well, he just straight up said he was. So that settles that. 

 

Not fine, but alot of it is an overreaction. Being mad about stuff that had to be done is pointless. Amy needs to fire callahan, why did amy fire callahan now? People just dont want to be happy. 

[TF_Titan]

2 hours ago, Callidus said:

Were you violently thrown on your head as a child?

 

If not, probably should have been.

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 hour ago, titanruss said:

 

 

Also, there was an argument here that Vrabel (like some hilariously still try to claim with Fisher and Mularkey) wasn't actually fired... well, he just straight up said he was. So that settles that. 

 

I don't remember this. What happened again? 

[Number9]

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=awards&subcategory=coach 

Head Coach of the Year betting odds.

Mike Vrabel has the best odds to win it.  

Mike Vrabel already won it once before.

 

We lucked up and got Mike Vrabel.  He was already considered to have potential to be a very good future HC while he was playing.  He's young and took this job because he had very little experience.   A candidate of his stature isn't coming for this job.  Chaos.  Who wants a job like this?

 

Here we go again.  Who will come?  Borgi who I like might be able to convince another coach 'everything is different, don't believe what you have heard,' but he can't hide the record of ineptitude by the franchise.  Can he do what JRob did-Hire two of the NFLs best head coaches?

 

[Callidus]

17 minutes ago, Number9 said:

https://sportsbook.draftkings.com/leagues/football/nfl?category=awards&subcategory=coach 

Head Coach of the Year betting odds.

Mike Vrabel has the best odds to win it.  

Mike Vrabel already won it once before.

 

We lucked up and got Mike Vrabel.  He was already considered to have potential to be a very good future HC while he was playing.  He's young and took this job because he had very little experience.   A candidate of his stature isn't coming for this job.  Chaos.  Who wants a job like this?

 

Here we go again.  Who will come?  Borgi who I like might be able to convince another coach 'everything is different, don't believe what you have heard,' but he can't hide the record of ineptitude by the franchise.  Can he do what JRob did-Hire two of the NFLs best head coaches?

 

[Number9]

1 hour ago, Callidus said:

I need them.  Thanks.

It is frustrating to spend time reading ridiculous comments about Vrabel.  Ex-wife laying in the hospital saying to a friend I love bc, but you're stuck going on a 10-day vacation to Europe with my ex.

 

[oldschool]

9 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

I don't remember this. What happened again? 

 

Just russ being russ. AAS technically fired Vrabel but we know he forced his way out with his actions and unwillingness to share power. 

[Yoshimitsu]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/ABlWJ6hgp8

 

LMAO

[titanruss]

8 hours ago, oldschool said:

 

Just russ being russ. AAS technically fired Vrabel but we know he forced his way out with his actions and unwillingness to share power. 

 

@IsntLifeFunny

 

I'm just pointing out the hilarious hypocrisy that no one notices about themselves. -  Your favorite Titans coach never gets fired. 

 

Any time a coach chose not to change what the FO and Owner asked them to - they got fired. It's the stupid 2 sided semantic argument that needs to be addressed because people use it disingenuously.

 

Mularkey, Fisher, Vrabel - The reality is: All were fired and none left happy or in good spirits and were pissed at the organization when they were fired....  

 

Unless you like them.. then of course the coach held all the cards and brilliantly forced their way out and tricked this evil stupid franchise and in no way could you say they were fired. 

 

By their dumb logic, Brownlee didn't get traded away for refusing to change. He forced the move because he didn't want to change. 

 

The ONLY one of the 3 coaches above where that argument holds water is Vrabel - and even he admitted he was fired,  has been vindictive,  and talked shit like a scorned dumped ex. 

 

 

 

Edited November 11 by titanruss

[scine09]

40 minutes ago, titanruss said:

 

@IsntLifeFunny

 

I'm just pointing out the hilarious hypocrisy that no one notices about themselves. -  Your favorite Titans coach never gets fired. 

 

Any time a coach chose not to change what the FO and Owner asked them to - they got fired. It's the stupid 2 sided semantic argument that needs to be addressed because people use it disingenuously.

 

Mularkey, Fisher, Vrabel - The reality is: All were fired and none left happy or in good spirits and were pissed at the organization when they were fired....  

 

Unless you like them.. then of course the coach held all the cards and brilliantly forced their way out and tricked this evil stupid franchise and in no way could you say they were fired. 

 

By their dumb logic, Brownlee didn't get traded away for refusing to change. He forced the move because he didn't want to change. 

 

The ONLY one of the 3 coaches above where that argument holds water is Vrabel - and even he admitted he was fired,  has been vindictive,  and talked shit like a scorned dumped ex. 

 

 

 

Almost everyone who's saying that Vrabel forced his way out did not like Vrabel.  It was plainly obvious.  He meets with Kraft, says all nice things about his organization while trashing others.  Then there's report after report in the media about all things negative against everyone but Vrabel.  Who exactly do you think put those reports out?  It's one of two people:  Kraft or Vrabel.  It could've been Kraft, nothing would surprise me with him, but it was in an effort to get Vrabel fired, and Vrabel disputed none of it.  

 

He wanted out.

[titanruss]

4 hours ago, scine09 said:

Almost everyone who's saying that Vrabel forced his way out did not like Vrabel.  It was plainly obvious.  He meets with Kraft, says all nice things about his organization while trashing others.  Then there's report after report in the media about all things negative against everyone but Vrabel.  Who exactly do you think put those reports out?  It's one of two people:  Kraft or Vrabel.  It could've been Kraft, nothing would surprise me with him, but it was in an effort to get Vrabel fired, and Vrabel disputed none of it.  

 

He wanted out.

 

Amy said she considered firing him the year before. 

 

He wanted out and was unafraid to show his discontent.... but a full year after she claims she had discussion and had to be talked out of firing him.

 

Point being,  whether he forced the timing or not, It was already cooking from the Owners side. 

 

You think that if they win their last 5-6 games after the Pats ring of honor ceremony that he gets fired or forces his way out? I dont. 

[Callidus]

3 minutes ago, titanruss said:

 

Amy said she considered firing him the year before. 

 

He wanted out and was unafraid to show his discontent.... but a full year after she claims she had discussion and had to be talked out of firing him.

 

Point being,  whether he forced the timing or not, It was already cooking from the Owners side. 

 

You think that if they win their last 5-6 games after the Pats ring of honor ceremony that he gets fired or forces his way out? I dont. 

Considering she had a meeting with him to give him a chance to save his job and he got fired within 5min should be most of what anyone needs to know. 

 

Also, if we won that last 5-6 games when he wasn't even trying to coach would have been more reason to fire him. Go watch the maiami game again, he doesn't even put his coaching hat on till like 5min left in the game once the team did all the work. 

 

He was a body that last 1-2 ,months.

[TampaTitan]

 

We buying this? 

[AussieTitanFan08]

12 minutes ago, TampaTitan said:

 

We buying this? 

 

This isn't the first time Carthon said this I think he even said this in his very first media appearance after he got fired.

[titanruss]

12 minutes ago, TampaTitan said:

 

We buying this? 

 

Sure why not? That  kinda thing happens all the time. Doesn't mean Vrable thought he was competent or decent at his job.. or ever wanted to work with him again. You can have working relationships with people you know are morons but you like them.