ChesterCopperpot1 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 5 minutes ago, oldschool said: This is silly. as @ctm said when you take an executive role, you know the pressure is on you. The higher up you go, the more lonely it gets and the more blame you have placed on you. Its what Brinker and Borgonzi signed up for. Hell, its what Callahan signed up for when he decided to go after being a HC. IDK man. Something about Brinker I just do not trust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 6 minutes ago, oldschool said: This is silly. as @ctm said when you take an executive role, you know the pressure is on you. The higher up you go, the more lonely it gets and the more blame you have placed on you. Its what Brinker and Borgonzi signed up for. Hell, its what Callahan signed up for when he decided to go after being a HC. Much of the job is being a babysitter for the idiot owners. In this case, Amy wanted to keep Callahan. Convincing her to make a change at HC would have put far more pressure on him than simply letting the situation correct itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said: IDK man. Something about Brinker I just do not trust. Brinker chose to come here. he didn't fail up like Carthon did. if he didn't want to fire Callahan for the sole purpose of staying out of the fire, Stillman is an idiot for suggesting this, then he should resign immediately. Brinker is a top the football org just like he was before Callahan was fired. if this thing doesn't turn around with or without Callahan, AAS will/would have held him responsible and rightfully so Do yourself a favor and stop listening to Stillman SuperFreak90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterCopperpot1 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 45 minutes ago, japan said: Everyone forgets that Nihill is involved in these decisions. He gets a pass for some reason. https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/nfl/titans/2024/01/24/brian-callahan-titans-coach-ran-carthon-burke-nihill-chad-brinker-nfl/72339320007/ Nihill has a job for life because of his handling of the stadium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 (edited) 35 minutes ago, oldschool said: You realize this is normal right? Nihil runs the Titans as a business. He is going to be on the search committee, ask questions of Brinker/Borganzi, who they like, what the criteria is, whats the vision, how do we avoid hiring another dud, etc... Please me you don't actually think Brinker/Borgonzi or going to go off and conduct a search to find a HC by themselves and never discuss it with the Executives that run the team until they tell them who they hired? Lolz. My point if that everyone giving him a pass. He obviously had a say in Carthon, Brinker and Callahan. Go back to your CEO meeting and pay attention. Edited October 16 by japan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 Just now, japan said: Lolz. My point if that everyone giving him a pass. He obviously had a say in Carthon, Brinker and Callahan. Well he is the business guy so... and he's killed that side of it. Honestly with all the crazy talk lately about how Brinker should have total control with no oversight or input from the ELT or AAS herself, its hard to keep track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 11 minutes ago, oldschool said: Well he is the business guy so... and he's killed that side of it. Honestly with all the crazy talk lately about how Brinker should have total control with no oversight or input from the ELT or AAS herself, its hard to keep track Yikes. Who said that?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 12 minutes ago, oldschool said: Well he is the business guy so... and he's killed that side of it. Honestly with all the crazy talk lately about how Brinker should have total control with no oversight or input from the ELT or AAS herself, its hard to keep track And just cause the guy is killing it as you say on the business side, doesn’t mean he didn’t have a hand with Amy of fucking up the whole structure. Collaboration… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 (edited) 6 minutes ago, japan said: Yikes. Who said that?? all the talk that the head of the football org should have complete control on football decisions without owner "meddling". My comment wasn't about Brinker specifically. Edited October 16 by oldschool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 Just now, japan said: And just cause the guy is killing it as you say on the business side, doesn’t mean he didn’t have a hand with Amy of fucking up the whole structure. Collaboration… There is absolutely nothing wrong with having the HC and GM report to a president or even the owner. Its a common setup these days. Lots of people misinterpret the collab model to mean no one has final say in their area and that its a free for all. Nothing could be further from the truth. Callidus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 The team is bad. All the angst about the structure and Brinker is because people want answers for why they are bad even though we know why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos27 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 The question of why the players are bad is easy to answer. We've had terrible drafts over the last 5 or so years that have hollowed out the roster. No mystery there. The mystery at least to me is who is responsible for advising/guiding Amy's football related decision-making at the highest level. IsntLifeFunny, and freakingeek 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
japan Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 (edited) 19 minutes ago, oldschool said: There is absolutely nothing wrong with having the HC and GM report to a president or even the owner. Its a common setup these days. Lots of people misinterpret the collab model to mean no one has final say in their area and that its a free for all. Nothing could be further from the truth. However you wanted Vrabel to collaborate with a lazy retard. Edited October 16 by japan oldschool 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 2 minutes ago, japan said: However you wanted Vrabel to collaborate with a lazy retard. Cartthon sucking doesn't mean the model is bad... it just means Carthon sucked. DCTitan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakingeek Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 (edited) 22 minutes ago, TeamRamrod said: The team is bad. All the angst about the structure and Brinker is because people want answers for why they are bad even though we know why. Poor drafting and irresponsible FA signings have mired us in the muck. Say what you will about Floyd Reese but 18 out of 22 players the Titans started in the Super Bowl were drafted by the team. Floyd screwed the salary cap up trying to keep the band together for another run. It's really unfortunate that Vrabel was such a pompous dickhead. Edited October 16 by freakingeek TeamRamrod, DCTitan, and Callidus 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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