Amy Adams Strunk likely behind stripping Brian Callahan of his play-calling(Terry McCormick)

[Justafan]

I have zero problem with the owner firing the head coach after what we saw from Callahan. Completely justified. I certainly think it's fair to question the hires, the process, and the results, though, until this organization turns itself around. Nothing in the organization is truly going well at the moment, and that starts and stops with the owner, regardless of the football people in charge... people she hired in the first place. 

[TerryBoats]

15 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Board wager that the offense looks a lot better under McCoy? 

I have no confidence.  I thought Hardegree could figure something out but things looked even worse.  McCoy has had some horrific moments as a play caller as well so I'm not sure he's capable of polishing this turd of a playbook

[oldschool]

6 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

Taken into the context of everything that's happened the past few years I can understand the trepidation. If she wasn't in lock step with her football guys that is a problem in and of itself. It doesn't mean it was the wrong move, as it obviously wasn't. Still, it does show evidence of dysfunction regardless of it being the right move. Something in the chain of command feels off. 

 

Totally agree. I've worked for CEOs who routinely micromanage, meddle, and even overrule their direct reports/leaders within the org all the time. Terrible spot to be in work wise. If AAS really mandated Callahan give up play calling, that makes her one of these and thats not good. 

[Jamalisms]

Owners are entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want and you can't call it meddling. Of course, you'd all know this if you ever smelled a CEO's farts before.

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, Jamalisms said:

Owners are entitled to do whatever they want, whenever they want and you can't call it meddling. Of course, you'd all know this if you ever smelled a CEO's farts before.

 

Go count beans, the adults are talking.

[oldschool]

 

[Mythos27]

4 minutes ago, oldschool said:

 

So she shouldn't have fired Carthon and Callahan so fast even though both guys sucked really bad because she fired Jrob 3 years ago and Vrabel forced his way out 2 years ago? That doesn't even make sense. You don't compound bad decisions with other bad decisions because you made changes that needed to be made 2-3 years ago. Like I said, she needs to give Brinker and Borgonzi time. They should get a few years to execute their vision for the rebuild. Now if she fired Brinker this offseason or next or Borgonzi after 1-2 years, i'll concede.

 

Maybe you're not getting where I'm coming from. I'm not bothered by the timing of firing Carthon or Callahan. I'm bothered by her process and what it says about her. With Callahan, my issue is preaching patience and then aborting the mission like 2 weeks later partly to avoid embarrassment at the hands of an ex-employee. I should not have to explain the bad optics and implications of that. The Carthon one is arguably worse because she failed to see that the most incompetent GM in NFL history (according to pretty much everyone now) was indeed incompetent. She was off in her judgment on that one that she allowed him to win a power struggle against a coach she still believed in and then made him the most powerful man in the org only to fire him month's later. She's setting fires and then people are giving her credit for putting them out quickly. I'm focused on the possibility that we have an unintentional arsonist as an owner while other seem to think she's a promising firefighter. Her judgement is in question to me because she sucks at hiring people.  

[TeamRamrod]

Doesn’t seem like she learned the lesson she supposedly did about Carthon if this kind of stuff is true. Which is a REAL problem

[Mythos27]

11 minutes ago, Justafan said:

I have zero problem with the owner firing the head coach after what we saw from Callahan. Completely justified. I certainly think it's fair to question the hires, the process, and the results, though, until this organization turns itself around. Nothing in the organization is truly going well at the moment, and that starts and stops with the owner, regardless of the football people in charge... people she hired in the first place. 

Precisely. I'm trying really hard to avoid relationship analogies lest they be interpreted as sexist dog whistles but there are so many that can be made regarding this franchise right now. 

[Jamalisms]

By the way, this isn't anything like Oldschool smelling CEO farts and telling them how wonderful it smells.

 

This is the silver-spoon kid who wanted nothing to do with the privately owned business daddy built, the one who had acknowledged intentionally avoiding learning anything about it, who then inherited it and had to do something. Instead of listening to the experienced professionals and the managers who know what the fuck they're doing, the kid just continues winging it, making unilateral decisions and firing new people every year ... immediately after saying how great they are and giving them a bunch of money to stay on.

 

I'm sure it'll get better.

[japan]

25 minutes ago, SuperFreak90 said:

McCoy>>>Callahan 

Little doubt about that

[oldschool]

1 minute ago, Jamalisms said:

By the way, this isn't anything like a Oldschool smelling CEO farts and telling them how wonderful it smells.

 

This is the silver-spoon kid who wanted nothing to do with the privately owned business daddy built, the one who had acknowledger intentionally avoided learning anything about it, who then inherited it and had to do something. Instead of listening to the experienced professionals and the managers who know what the fuck they're doing, the kid just continues winging it, making unilateral decisions and firing new people every year, immediately after saying how great they are and giving them a bunch of money to stay on.

 

I'm sure it'll get better.

 

low level accountants are the worst... yawn

[Jamalisms]

Someone doesn't know what they're talking about. Again. 

 

Keep up the (inaccurate) ad hominem. I'm sure you'll start convincing everyone soon.

[oldschool]

9 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Maybe you're not getting where I'm coming from. I'm not bothered by the timing of firing Carthon or Callahan. I'm bothered by her process and what it says about her. With Callahan, my issue is preaching patience and then aborting the mission like 2 weeks later partly to avoid embarrassment at the hands of an ex-employee. I should not have to explain the bad optics and implications of that. The Carthon one is arguably worse because she failed to see that the most incompetent GM in NFL history (according to pretty much everyone now) was indeed incompetent. She was off in her judgment on that one that she allowed him to win a power struggle against a coach she still believed in and then made him the most powerful man in the org only to fire him month's later. She's setting fires and then people are giving her credit for putting them out quickly. I'm focused on the possibility that we have an unintentional arsonist as an owner while other seem to think she's a promising firefighter. Her judgement is in question to me because she sucks at hiring people.  

 

okay lets break this down. We agree she hasn't hired the best people but if you remove emotion from it, can you call the Jrob and Vrabel hires bad? Both had success here. jrob just fell off a cliff in the draft and sucked at keeping the roster good. Vrabel was a good HC here who forced his way out. Were these bad decisions to hire them because she ended up firing them years later?

 

Carthon was a horrible hire but he was a top candidate, came from the 49ers who have a strong Front office. The bigger mistake there is hiring a #3 to be your #1. With Callahan, she made the final call to hire him but we know its was Brinker and Carthon who led that search. Obivously a bad hire but again, Callahan was widely regarded as a top tier candidate. The jury is still out on Brinker and Borgonzi.

 

Where are these compounding bad decisions you keep speaking of? 

Edited October 15, 2025 by oldschool

[oldschool]

3 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

Someone doesn't know what they're talking about. Again. 

 

Keep up the (inaccurate) ad hominem. I'm sure you'll start convincing everyone soon.