Initial Thoughts on the Titans Draft

[NashvilleNinja]

1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

Here's what cracks me up about draft nerds....

 

I listened to "Football and other F Words" podcast. They released snippets from their draft coverage on each pick. 

 

As the picks were made they discussed the Titans reaching or getting value based on their own thoughts about where players should have been drafted. The hilarity is those opinions are based on what they have read or heard, not their own expertise, which they have none). 

 

They literally said if you take the players drafted and pretend they were drafted in a different order(Ayomanor before Dike) the draft looks better.  

 

Zack Lyons said Dike was the next Fitzpatrick. Zack Lyons also praised Anthony Richardson last year and had Sanders ahead of Ward. L-O-L

 

I've seen people say that on here about their draft order. It's as if they don't think the Titans should have followed their own board and just followed Football and F Words board. Because clearly those guys know better who/what the Titans need, and where, than the Titans do.

 

Or... maybe the Titans just need to keep following their own process over a bunch of wanna-be Mel Kipers.

[Starkiller]

4 hours ago, AussieTitanFan08 said:

According to the NFLN Path to Draft program the answer was LB with 33 players selected which initially I thought was rather surprising given it wasn't a great LB class, digging deeper it seems that number included both LB and some 3-4 OLB.

The LB class was weak at the top but there were a lot of draftable guys beyond round 1. And teams are always looking for cheap LB depth guys. 

[TerryBoats]

2 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Here's what cracks me up about draft nerds....

 

I listened to "Football and other F Words" podcast. They released snippets from their draft coverage on each pick. 

 

As the picks were made they discussed the Titans reaching or getting value based on their own thoughts about where players should have been drafted. The hilarity is those opinions are based on what they have read or heard, not their own expertise, which they have none). 

 

They literally said if you take the players drafted and pretend they were drafted in a different order(Ayomanor before Dike) the draft looks better.  

 

Zack Lyons said Dike was the next Fitzpatrick. Zack Lyons also praised Anthony Richardson last year and had Sanders ahead of Ward. L-O-L

We clearly saw that the media evaluations compared to those of NFL scouts and executives are not aligned.   Sanders was an extreme example, but mid to late rounds were never high priority to people who speak of football for entertainment, while they absolutely are for NFL teams.

[BudsOilers]

9 minutes ago, TerryBoats said:

We clearly saw that the media evaluations compared to those of NFL scouts and executives are not aligned.   Sanders was an extreme example, but mid to late rounds were never high priority to people who speak of football for entertainment, while they absolutely are for NFL teams.

It's also just the gloss over of how each team has grades based on their scheme, roster needs, positional values, character values, longer term needs.....whereas the media draft nerds are looking at a big board that ignores most of those elements.

 

And as @OILERMAN points out, some of these puds on podcasts or message boards simply repeat what the draft sites are telling them.

[titanruss]

Its pretty clear this new staff rates traits and leadership over production.  I think thats' a mistake in general but we will see. 

 

Its fair to question the Femi and Dike picsk. Where they got them, and why, and if they would have gone anywhere near where we picked them had we not grabbed them up. We chased traits and specific uses (dike on deep crossers) thats all fine and good if you have a team of good football players.. but we dont. So its fair to complain.

 

Almost every single prognoaticating site and ranking site and "FO inteview" rank had neither of these guys rated at where we drafted them. There's also no tape out there that makes Femi or Dike look better than the like next 7 guys of their positions taken. Thats all we can know.

 

 

[BudsOilers]

 

[titanruss]

53 minutes ago, BudsOilers said:

 

 

Make an argument that its not mostly a traits driven draft...  they even stated it in their BPA clarification. The question was re-asked to borg/brink a few times because everyone was collectively thinking that these dudes werent the best "players"

 

Ward/Elic/Helm production but also great athleticism/leadership

The S - OK production 2nd year but injured pretty much all of year 3 - heavy on athleticism/leadership.

Everyone else.. athletic/leadership/weak ass actual production. Doesnt mean they are going to be bad pros, just means its easier to question if they will be.

 

As much as you bag on Restrepo for his athletic limits.... the same should be done for guys who didn't do much in college. Far more likely to make it in the league if you were a good player in college vs good athlete.

Edited May 2, 2025 by titanruss

[BudsOilers]

Did you see the QB's at Wisconsin and Florida?  That would certainly explain some of the production issues....How would he have done with better QB play?

 

Add in the fact the guy can play all 3 spots and play on multiple special teams units, something the UDFA guy in particular can't do.

 

 

[Callidus]

9 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Here's what cracks me up about draft nerds....

 

I listened to "Football and other F Words" podcast. They released snippets from their draft coverage on each pick. 

 

As the picks were made they discussed the Titans reaching or getting value based on their own thoughts about where players should have been drafted. The hilarity is those opinions are based on what they have read or heard, not their own expertise, which they have none). 

 

They literally said if you take the players drafted and pretend they were drafted in a different order(Ayomanor before Dike) the draft looks better.  

 

Zack Lyons said Dike was the next Fitzpatrick. Zack Lyons also praised Anthony Richardson last year and had Sanders ahead of Ward. L-O-L

In Lyons defense he has on more than one occasion admited he totally took the bait on that one. Not saying that makes his opinions really good, he is still the numbers guy and not a film guy, but atleast he could admit he royaly fucked up. 

[BudsOilers]

Who did that guy blow to get the radio gig?

[titansfan]

1 hour ago, BudsOilers said:

Did you see the QB's at Wisconsin and Florida?  That would certainly explain some of the production issues....How would he have done with better QB play?

 

Add in the fact the guy can play all 3 spots and play on multiple special teams units, something the UDFA guy in particular can't do.

 

 

 

Florida has the 2027 #1 pick at QB even  over Manning 

[BudsOilers]

Just now, titansfan said:

 

Florida has the 2027 #1 pick at QB even  over Manning 

The one that threw 6 TD's or the one that threw 12?  

[titansfan]

DJ Lagway is probably a household name after next season 

[Callidus]

3 minutes ago, titansfan said:

DJ Lagway is probably a household name after next season 

Does he kill puppies in his spare time?

[BudsOilers]

7 minutes ago, titansfan said:

DJ Lagway is probably a household name after next season 

Sure isn't right now.