GLinks Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 I thought similarly about Sweat as a 2nd rounder early last year, then his stock fell due to the DUI. I feel like the inferior defensive line would be potentially dominant with Alexander added. FWIW, I believe the PFF big board ranks him at 35. It would be weird to go IDL B2B but maybe they think a dominant interior can help mitigate mediocre edge rushers. He’s a dude. I’d be surprised if he gets out of the 2nd round. He’s got a Darius Robinson (Missouri) type rise from last year going on. Not my preference at 35, but I would probably rather have him than Femi Oladejo at 35. It could also be that they like Alexander more than some of the Edge players in that territory beyond a certain point. rns90, and OnsideKick 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 Well the other point is that Sweat isn’t really a pass rusher at this point. So when Simmons isn’t there the interior pass rush goes to hell. Yeah they added Jones but he’s only on a one year deal. They are on a multi year rebuild and need to add talent and pass rushers to the DL—both interior and edge. Dangermode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 Just now, rns90 said: Well the other point is that Sweat isn’t really a pass rusher at this point. So when Simmons isn’t there the interior pass rush goes to hell. Yeah they added Jones but he’s only on a one year deal. They are on a multi year rebuild and need to add talent and pass rushers to the DL—both interior and edge. Maybe people should stop talking about trading Simmons and start talking about trading Sweat? TerryBoats 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 Just now, NashvilleNinja said: Maybe people should stop talking about trading Simmons and start talking about trading Sweat? Not sure what kind of value a two down run stuffer has at this point . As @oldschoolhas said in the past , if he doesn’t develop any pass rush ability he’s just another one of over drafted players. I don’t want to say he’s a bust or anything but his skill set ( to this point) could have been found later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 1 minute ago, rns90 said: Not sure what kind of value a two down run stuffer has at this point . As @oldschoolhas said in the past , if he doesn’t develop any pass rush ability he’s just another one of over drafted players. I don’t want to say he’s a bust or anything but his skill set ( to this point) could have been found later on. I wouldn't expect they could get what they gave for him. Hopefully a 4th rounder, but probably more likely a 5th. If it'd be worth it, which it may not. rns90 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rns90 Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 Just now, NashvilleNinja said: I wouldn't expect they could get what they gave for him. Hopefully a 4th rounder, but probably more likely a 5th. If it'd be worth it, which it may not. It’s probably not worth it. He might develop pass rush skills. And he’s already a run stuffer and that has value . Dude needs to get in better condition for this year though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLinks Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 I thought they are looking at Cam Jackson as a longer-term backup for Sweat. I don’t really want them to spend a pick on him but I feel like they’re gonna anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callidus Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 9 minutes ago, NashvilleNinja said: Maybe people should stop talking about trading Simmons and start talking about trading Sweat? I was kinda suprised listening to cover2 that apparently by the the backend of the season teams were doubling sweat more than simmons. Not that he is the better player, just suprised. Dangermode 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLinks Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 (edited) Looking at the 30 Visits, the only guys I seriously consider at 35 are Donovan Jackson, Darius Alexander, Kyle Williams and please-don’t-take-him Luther Burden III. And yes, I think someone is going to take “the best separator in the draft” (Kyle Williams) earlier than current consensus. Some podcaster (Tic-Tac?) pointed out that Cam Ward’s deep downfield passing numbers were much better with Kyle Williams than when he was at Miami. Edited April 14, 2025 by GLinks Face, and Dangermode 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 5 hours ago, rns90 said: Not sure what kind of value a two down run stuffer has at this point . As @oldschoolhas said in the past , if he doesn’t develop any pass rush ability he’s just another one of over drafted players. I don’t want to say he’s a bust or anything but his skill set ( to this point) could have been found later on. That's not the way to look at it imo.... The whole league is playing two high shells to stop explosive plays. Teams are countering this by running the ball with guys like Henry and Barkley with their mobile QBs also doing serious damage. Sweat and Simmons offer the defense the ability to stop the run with a light box. That's invaluable. Although they aren't going to rack up sacks they also disrupt the pocket and force the QB to get the ball out. Hurts had 34 carries 194 yards and 5 TDs in the playoffs, Daniels had 35 carries and we know about Jackson. You have to be able to stop the QB/RB combo with a light box. I doubt Sweat even plays on known passing downs. Also why they aren't trading Simmons GLinks, Dangermode, KogaShuko, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctm Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 Bogonzi said months ago that he wanted to improve the LOS play on both sides of the ball. Plus S. Day is a free agent in 2026 and Coburn is a jag and RFA next year. OILERMAN, and Dangermode 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo59 Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 32 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: That's not the way to look at it imo.... The whole league is playing two high shells to stop explosive plays. Teams are countering this by running the ball with guys like Henry and Barkley with their mobile QBs also doing serious damage. Sweat and Simmons offer the defense the ability to stop the run with a light box. That's invaluable. Although they aren't going to rack up sacks they also disrupt the pocket and force the QB to get the ball out. Hurts had 34 carries 194 yards and 5 TDs in the playoffs, Daniels had 35 carries and we know about Jackson. You have to be able to stop the QB/RB combo with a light box. I doubt Sweat even plays on known passing downs. Also why they aren't trading Simmons So valuable they won three games. Sorry, if the right deal shows up everyone on this roster has a price. They suck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 1 hour ago, Bongo59 said: So valuable they won three games. Sorry, if the right deal shows up everyone on this roster has a price. They suck. You've gotta be trolling at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanruss Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 17 hours ago, headhunter said: We won 3 games last year it's a lot closer to 8 or more with even average QB play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamRamrod Posted April 14, 2025 Report Share Posted April 14, 2025 Dangermode, Starkiller, and OnsideKick 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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