Trump’s 2nd term: American Carnage

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“Hearing from reliable sources that Trump has fired Democratic NLRB member Gwynne Wilcox, an unprecedented move that could bring cases filed by SpaceX, Amazon challenging NLRB constitutionality to SCOTUS

Board members are shielded from presidential removal so this appears illegal“

 

Via Lauren Gurley 

[TheBukafax]

1 hour ago, Titandan said:

 

This isn't directed at you @Justafan... but yes. WTF? 

 

Some of you have been calling my yellow ass a white supremacist for months now and rendering that term utterly meaningless.  And when a real life white supremacist appears on the forum, you either bounce or you conveniently taking a fucking cat nap.

 

Whether you fuck with me or not, at least I was one of the only guys who grappled with his flawed ideology once this bitch exposed himself for who he is.  Only @Strunk'sDessert and @Starkiller called him out on his stupidity.  Where are the fucking anti-racists when you need them? 

 

You don't have to like me personally or like the policies that I support. But y'all stupid as hell when you masquerade as benevolent social warriors then conveniently disappear when a genuine racist appears. Then when the dust has settled, come back to mock one of the few minorities in this board for standing on business.

 

Is this dumb fuck even a real member and not a troll account?

This post sent me lol.

 

You do know you don’t actually need to be the specific race to be a white supremacist?

 

I even seen you can Poke a useful idiot lmao. You do know that’s how you are viewed as well right?

 

This shit is a jawbreaker. The centre is rich, white men. Eventually this will get licked down to the centre. For now you are part of the ball, in the end you’ll be dirty spit tossed away to make sure only the centre is around to enjoy the utopia they create.

 

You seem like a decent guy and I know all of this is pointless to tell you but I hope you break free.

[Titandan]

27 minutes ago, Jamalisms said:

Argue with yourself.

The DMV is useful in getting my driver's license and renewing it ever so often. I do not consider myself in any way, shape, matter, or form associated with that dreaded inefficient pile of government garbage.  In fact, I pay extra to third party services to get my registration docs every once in a while just to avoid that catastrophe. 

[Titandan]

12 minutes ago, TheBukafax said:

You do know you don’t actually need to be the specific race to be a white supremacist?

Chappelle's Show broke barriers on that end. Remember the "Black White Supremacist" Sketch? LOL

I'm convinced that some of you think of me this way.  Still ain't joining the democrat plantation, boys.  That word makes me think of what used to be one of my favorite (and I'm sure if he knew about it, Soupie's favorite) restaurants called the Soup Plantation.  Permanently closed all doors during covid... 
 

 

[Titans279]

32 minutes ago, Little Earl said:

 

Not until the left is back in power as the Democrats were the party of slavery and Jim Crow.

 

Isn't it odd how the former Democratic stronghold states of the south all became Republican after the civil rights movements of the 60s?

 

It's almost like Democrats lost the south by passing them!

[Titandan]

Just now, Titans279 said:

 

Isn't it odd how the former Democratic stronghold states of the south all became Republican after the civil rights movements of the 60s?

 

It's almost like Democrats lost the south by passing them!

DNC shifted course and went after the African American voters and entitlement voters. And many black people from the rural areas moved to the urban areas.  The DNC's been pushing entitlements and trying to grow that population ever since.  Do you think the DNC wants these people to prosper or do you think it's better for the DNC to grow this population so that they will have a supermajority of these votes?  Repeat customers is a businessman's best friend and repeat voters are a politician's best friend.  Trap them into a system that's hard to break out of and incentivize them to vote for you for a lifetime.  

If that isn't a modern-day plantation, I don't know what is. 

[Titans279]

4 minutes ago, Titandan said:

DNC shifted course and went after the African American voters and entitlement voters. And many black people from the rural areas moved to the urban areas.  The DNC's been pushing entitlements and trying to grow that population ever since.  Do you think the DNC wants these people to prosper or do you think it's better for the DNC to grow this population so that they will have a supermajority of these votes?  Repeat customers is a businessman's best friend and repeat voters are a politician's best friend.  Trap them into a system that's hard to break out of and incentivize them to vote for you for a lifetime.  

If that isn't a modern-day plantation, I don't know what is. 

 

I don't see how this is a response to my statement at all. You are just reciting a script about black voters. It's a narrative that's pretty insulting tbh. You're saying those voters are too stupid to realize they are slaves...

 

Anyway, back to the thing I was actually talking about.

 

Why do you think that segregationist Democrats like Strom Thurmond switched to the GOP?

 

It was a quite explicit strategy of Republicans to court racist white voters lol.

 

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

 

-- Nixon's political strategist Kevin Phillips, 1970

[Titandan]

7 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

I don't see how this is a response to my statement at all. You are just reciting a script about black voters. It's a narrative that's pretty insulting tbh. You're saying those voters are too stupid to realize they are slaves...

 

Anyway, back to the thing I was actually talking about.

 

Why do you think that segregationist Democrats like Strom Thurmond switched to the GOP?

 

It was a quite explicit strategy of Republicans to court racist white voters lol.

 

From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.

 

-- Nixon's political strategist Kevin Phillips, 1970

You can be insulted all you want but it's political strategy. Both sides have been doing it since forever I'm assuming. When the black demographic was able to vote, guess which party targeted them? 

 

Stupid mistake by the repubs. But I don't agree with the way dems want to maintain the black votes.  

 

And the real insult should be the lack of progress that these super majority urban areas have made for the black community.  Decades of the same democrat officials with nothing to show for it. Hopefully Mayor Eric Adams changes that trajectory after he's been targeted by the DNC. 

 

I've been a proponent of sharing the best ideas and everyone gets to decide for themselves their own conclusions. 

 

But whenever I or one of my peeps propose a different viewpoint, it's automatically met with condescension and name calling such as useful idiot, low IQ, or my favorite, white supremacist lol. 

 

A free society is one which various viewpoints and theories are shared and the contents of the ideas are attacked instead of the person sharing the ideas.  Sometimes you can be right and I'm wrong.  Other times I can be right and you're wrong.  Agree or disagree, what's important is that we get to the truth.  

[Titans279]

10 minutes ago, Titandan said:

You can be insulted all you want but it's political strategy. Both sides have been doing it since forever I'm assuming. When the black demographic was able to vote, guess which party targeted them? 

 

Stupid mistake by the repubs. But I don't agree with the way dems want to maintain the black votes.  

 

And the real insult should be the lack of progress that these super majority urban areas have made for the black community.  Decades of the same democrat officials with nothing to show for it. Hopefully Mayor Eric Adams changes that trajectory after he's been targeted by the DNC. 

 

I've been a proponent of sharing the best ideas and everyone gets to decide for themselves their own conclusions. 

 

But whenever I or one of my peeps propose a different viewpoint, it's automatically met with condescension and name calling such as useful idiot, low IQ, or my favorite, white supremacist lol. 

 

A free society is one which various viewpoints and theories are shared and the contents of the ideas are attacked instead of the person sharing the ideas.  Sometimes you can be right and I'm wrong.  Other times I can be right and you're wrong.  Agree or disagree, what's important is that we get to the truth.  

 

To be clear, you're suggesting Democrats "targeted" black voters by passing basic civil rights laws. I would certainly not categorize it that way. They passed a good law to try to fix a major societal evil.

 

Then, as stated by the GOP at the time, the GOP chose to ignore black voters entirely and court racist whites.

 

That's the reason black voters stuck with Democrats for so long. Democrats fought for their civil rights, and then Republicans courted the voters who were opposed to their civil rights.

Edited January 28 by Titans279

[Mythos27]

2 hours ago, Titandan said:

Hey, I'll take their votes. If poke voted for Trump, I'd consider him at least half useful but he'd still be a delusional, insignificant super minority that won't move the needle in any way. 

 

Just curious. What percentage of the American populace do you guys think @TitanPoke and his ilk represent?

 

Please be honest... 

People as extreme as him and willing to talk about it? Maybe 7-10%. People with white supremacist beliefs? Somewhere between 15-20%.

[Titandan]

5 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

To be clear, you're suggesting Democrats "targeted" black voters by passing basic civil rights laws. I would certainly not categorize it that way. They passed a good law to try to fix a major societal evil.

 

Then, as stated by the GOP at the time, the GOP chose to ignore black voters entirely and court racist whites.

 

That's the reason black voters stuck with Democrats for so long. Democrats fought for their civil rights, and then Republicans courted the voters who were opposed to their civil rights.

Republicans did the heavy lifting. 
They fought to free the slaves then voted to give the black slaves a right to vote. Democrats voted against voting rights btw.

Dems capitalized on the black votes. Reps didn't. Like I said. Stupid mistake. 

[Mythos27]

18 minutes ago, Titandan said:

You can be insulted all you want but it's political strategy. Both sides have been doing it since forever I'm assuming. When the black demographic was able to vote, guess which party targeted them? 

 

Stupid mistake by the repubs. But I don't agree with the way dems want to maintain the black votes.  

 

And the real insult should be the lack of progress that these super majority urban areas have made for the black community.  Decades of the same democrat officials with nothing to show for it. Hopefully Mayor Eric Adams changes that trajectory after he's been targeted by the DNC. 

 

I've been a proponent of sharing the best ideas and everyone gets to decide for themselves their own conclusions. 

 

But whenever I or one of my peeps propose a different viewpoint, it's automatically met with condescension and name calling such as useful idiot, low IQ, or my favorite, white supremacist lol. 

 

A free society is one which various viewpoints and theories are shared and the contents of the ideas are attacked instead of the person sharing the ideas.  Sometimes you can be right and I'm wrong.  Other times I can be right and you're wrong.  Agree or disagree, what's important is that we get to the truth.  

To be fair, the lack of progress in urban areas isn't because the dems are racist or incompetent (though I'm sure many are incompetent). It's because local governments can never hope to off-set the fact that such a large amount of their constituents have no generational wealth, limited economic opportunities, and are getting sucked dry by oligarchic billionaires like the rest of us. I would bet that conservatives haven't done much better and couldn't even if they wanted to. Hard to uplift entire communities when the economy is rigged against you.  None of this gets fixed until we can get money out of politics. 

[Little Earl]

59 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

Isn't it odd how the former Democratic stronghold states of the south all became Republican after the civil rights movements of the 60s?

 

It's almost like Democrats lost the south by passing them!

 

I already debunked that leftist thought last year.   I'll post it again for your edification:

 

Now to the preposterous claim that Democrat party and Republican party switched places, especially in the South.  Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties (Storm Thurmond). Nor did the people that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans, the remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats.   It took 25 years after the Civil Rights Act before the South started turning Republican.   Robert KKK Byrd saw no reason to change.

 

There is no radical break in the Republicans’ civil-rights history: From abolition to Reconstruction to the anti-lynching laws, from the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Civil Rights Act of 1875 to the Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1960, and 1964, there exists a line that connects the politics of Lincoln with those of Dwight D. Eisenhower.   If Southern Democrats were conservatives and racist, they certainly wouldn't have changed over to the Republican party.  

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2012/05/party-civil-rights-kevin-d-williamson/

[Mythos27]

2 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Republicans did the heavy lifting. 
They fought to free the slaves then voted to give the black slaves a right to vote. Democrats voted against voting rights btw.

Dems capitalized on the black votes. Reps didn't. Like I said. Stupid mistake. 

Southern strategy my guy. 

[Mythos27]

1 minute ago, Little Earl said:

 

I already debunked that leftist thought last year.   I'll post it again for your edification:

 

Now to the preposterous claim that Democrat party and Republican party switched places, especially in the South.  Of the 21 Democratic senators who opposed the 1964 act, only one would ever change parties (Storm Thurmond). Nor did the people that elected these Democrats throw them out in favor of Republicans, the remaining 20 continued to be elected as Democrats or were replaced by Democrats.   It took 25 years after the Civil Rights Act before the South started turning Republican.   Robert KKK Byrd saw no reason to change.

 

There is no radical break in the Republicans’ civil-rights history: From abolition to Reconstruction to the anti-lynching laws, from the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Civil Rights Act of 1875 to the Civil Rights Acts of 1957, 1960, and 1964, there exists a line that connects the politics of Lincoln with those of Dwight D. Eisenhower.   If Southern Democrats were conservatives and racist, they certainly wouldn't have changed over to the Republican party.  

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2012/05/party-civil-rights-kevin-d-williamson/

You do understand that only people who are already on the right would agree with you on this right?