OILERMAN Posted February 17, 2025 Report Share Posted February 17, 2025 GMs rarely get 2nd chances like coaches do. I'm actually surprised Robinson has been interviewed multiple times. What's funny is Vrabel should be branded every bit as badly as Robinson is. If we knew how much Vrabel had in terms personnel decisions he might even look way worse. The idiot was doing cartwheels when they drafted Willis. He has total control in NE.....lol Vrabel should have been fired after the Jags finale for the division TerryBoats, and Justafan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 17, 2025 Report Share Posted February 17, 2025 On 2/16/2025 at 6:28 AM, nine said: JRobs's last three first-round picks: Isaiah Wilson's NFL career: 3 snaps Caleb Farley's NFL career: 332 defensive snaps, 0 INTs, 1 PD Treylon Burks' career (3 yrs) - 53 receptions, 699 yards, 1TD Three consecutive first-round picks....roughly 1300 snaps for their NFL careers combined. Off the top of my head, the closest comparison I can come up with is the 2014 Browns: their two first-round picks that year were Justin Gilbert (#8 overall) and Johnny Manziel (#22). Both were monumental busts who played only a few hundred snaps in the NFL. I'm not aware any other NFL GM who had such abysmal and abject failure three times in a row. And if there was.....I'll guarantee you that once he was fired, the guy was never again viewed as a legitimate GM candidate by any NFL organization. Kinda like JRob. The further away we get from his tenure the more clearly it becomes that Robinson deserves to go to jail for that shit. Injustice persists. Mythos27 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 17, 2025 Report Share Posted February 17, 2025 On 2/16/2025 at 7:17 AM, OILERMAN said: And at the same time Vrabel is considered Bill Belichich The Patriot Way really was just Brady and Belichick. Everyone else was riding their coattails. OILERMAN, Justafan, IsntLifeFunny, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 7 hours ago, NashvilleNinja said: The Patriot Way really was just Brady and Belichick. Everyone else was riding their coattails. FIFY headhunter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OILERMAN Posted February 18, 2025 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 Just now, scine09 said: FIFY You have to be crazy not to credit Belichich too He’s the greatest NFL mind in history japan, TerryBoats, NashvilleNinja, and 2 others 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 14 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: You have to be crazy not to credit Belichich too He’s the greatest NFL mind in history He provided Brady with Top 10 defenses for like 80-90% of his career. IsntLifeFunny, OILERMAN, and Justafan 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 (edited) 27 minutes ago, OILERMAN said: You have to be crazy not to credit Belichich too He’s the greatest NFL mind in history You mean the guy who had three winning seasons in ten without Brady, including one playoff victory? That guy? Or the guy who had his QB leave and immediately win the Super Bowl with a different coach while he went under .500 and year after going 12-4 with Brady? That guy? Edited February 18, 2025 by scine09 japan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 1 minute ago, scine09 said: You mean the guy who had three winning seasons in ten without Brady, including one playoff victory? That guy? Or the guy who had his QB leave and immediately win the Super Bowl with a different coach while he went under .500 and year after going 12-4 with Brady? That guy? Name one coach who ever consistently won without a QB. Mythos27, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 Just now, NashvilleNinja said: Name one coach who ever consistently won without a QB. You can't claim it was about Brady and Belichick when Brady leaves and Belichick suddently can't win. It was Brady. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 18 minutes ago, scine09 said: You mean the guy who had three winning seasons in ten without Brady, including one playoff victory? That guy? Or the guy who had his QB leave and immediately win the Super Bowl with a different coach while he went under .500 and year after going 12-4 with Brady? That guy? Even the best coaches have to have quality QBs. Yes, QB is more important than HC but that doesn't mean BB wasn't one of the best coaches in NFL history. What coach was racking up postseason wins or consistently winning without a good QB? Justafan, IrishTitansFan, japan, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scine09 Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 1 minute ago, OILERMAN said: Even the best coaches have to have quality QBs. Yes, QB is more important than HC but that doesn't mean BB wasn't one of the best coaches in NFL history. What coach was racking up postseason wins or consistently winning without a good QB? You proved my point. It's rarely about the head coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 3 minutes ago, scine09 said: You proved my point. It's rarely about the head coach. I've made this argument a million times over. I remember you arguing back in the day it was more about BB..... But Belichich has his own awesome resume, even as the DC of the Giants. Brady wasn't Brady in the first few SB wins either Mythos27, and japan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryBoats Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 30 minutes ago, scine09 said: You proved my point. It's rarely about the head coach. Brady has won 0 SBs without a Top 10 defense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No1TitansFan Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 BB won 10 games with Matt Cassell at QB who was a complete and utter scrub everywhere else he played. NashvilleNinja, and Mythos27 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NashvilleNinja Posted February 18, 2025 Report Share Posted February 18, 2025 52 minutes ago, scine09 said: You proved my point. It's rarely about the head coach. Tell that to Peyton... If the coach doesn't matter why is the average length of any coaching stint only 3 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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