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5 hours ago, scine09 said:

I actually agree with Terry that Brady may never have even seen the field if drafted into a different situation.  

 

Have you heard Brady talk about taking reps at Michigan when he was buried on the depth chart? 

 

Nothing was stopping Brady

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6 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Have you heard Brady talk about taking reps at Michigan when he was buried on the depth chart? 

 

Nothing was stopping Brady

What would have happened had the Colts drafted him?

[IsntLifeFunny]

6 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

Have you heard Brady talk about taking reps at Michigan when he was buried on the depth chart? 

 

Nothing was stopping Brady

A lot of things would have stopped him from being the GOAT. Maybe nothing would have stopped him from being great, but that environment was inarguably perfect. 

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4 hours ago, scine09 said:

What would have happened had the Colts drafted him?

 

He would have worked his ass off until he became a free agent if not traded before then

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26 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

He would have worked his ass off until he became a free agent if not traded before then

I have no doubt he'd have worked his tail off but I don't think it would've gone like it went.  Brady didn't become the Brady we know without a ton of good fortune.  That 2001 team had so many breaks go their way.  I always wondered had the rule been what it is today would they have just gone back to Bledsoe in 2002.  And, remember, the 2002 team didn't make the playoffs.  Whose to say that the Patriots, even had they stayed with Brady, didn't say, well, this was a 6th round pick, he didn't play well in the one playoff game he played in, at home, they lost, they missed the playoffs in 2002 and it's time to move on.  Everything started so perfectly for him that he was able to make his way up and eventually become what we know him as.

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28 minutes ago, scine09 said:

I have no doubt he'd have worked his tail off but I don't think it would've gone like it went.  Brady didn't become the Brady we know without a ton of good fortune.  That 2001 team had so many breaks go their way.  I always wondered had the rule been what it is today would they have just gone back to Bledsoe in 2002.  And, remember, the 2002 team didn't make the playoffs.  Whose to say that the Patriots, even had they stayed with Brady, didn't say, well, this was a 6th round pick, he didn't play well in the one playoff game he played in, at home, they lost, they missed the playoffs in 2002 and it's time to move on.  Everything started so perfectly for him that he was able to make his way up and eventually become what we know him as.

 

I'm not arguing he would have won 7 SBs and became the GOAT in another situation.

 

Your original statement was "he may have never seen" the field. 

 

I don't care where he was drafted or what situation. Tom Brady would have became a quality starting QB no matter where he was drafted. 

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1 minute ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I'm not arguing he would have won 7 SBs and became the GOAT in another situation.

 

Your original statement was "he may have never seen" the field. 

 

I don't care where he was drafted or what situation. Tom Brady would have became a quality starting QB no matter where he was drafted. 

In my example it would've likely taken five years for him to even get on the field with a franchise that didn't draft him.  He was already a 6th round pick so the rope would've been shorter and he'd have had to at best compete with someone else in his next job.  No one would've just handed over the job to someone who impressed in preseason but never took a meaningful regular season snap in four years.  Would he have become a starter?  Maybe.  The circumstances would've been totally different so he would have had to impress immediately or the team would've gone with a higher pick who had more experience and proven more in the league.  That's just how these things work.

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8 hours ago, scine09 said:

In my example it would've likely taken five years for him to even get on the field with a franchise that didn't draft him.  He was already a 6th round pick so the rope would've been shorter and he'd have had to at best compete with someone else in his next job.  No one would've just handed over the job to someone who impressed in preseason but never took a meaningful regular season snap in four years.  Would he have become a starter?  Maybe.  The circumstances would've been totally different so he would have had to impress immediately or the team would've gone with a higher pick who had more experience and proven more in the league.  That's just how these things work.

I disagree .  Someone would have given him a chance.   And he would have seized the starting job.  We’ve seen Romo and Warner basically come off the street and claim jobs (around the time Brady was starting out).  Rich Gannon went from journeyman to MVP.  
 

If you have talent, they would have given you a shot .

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Just now, rns90 said:

I disagree .  Someone would have given him a chance.   And he would have seized the starting job.  We’ve seen Romo and Warner basically come off the street and claim jobs (around the time Brady was starting out).  Rich Gannon went from journeyman to MVP.  
 

If you have talent, they would have given you a shot .

My point is the rope is a lot shorter for someone like that.  He would have had to impress immediately.  And maybe he would have.  But there’s no guarantee.  And that would’ve likely been his only shot.  When you’re drafted that late you usually don’t get more than one shot.

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1 minute ago, scine09 said:

My point is the rope is a lot shorter for someone like that.  He would have had to impress immediately.  And maybe he would have.  But there’s no guarantee.  And that would’ve likely been his only shot.  When you’re drafted that late you usually don’t get more than one shot.

I disagree again.  We’ve seen worse stiffs drafted late get multiple shots in the league.  Tyler Huntley, Josh Johnson etc.

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2 minutes ago, rns90 said:

I disagree again.  We’ve seen worse stiffs drafted late get multiple shots in the league.  Tyler Huntley, Josh Johnson etc.

Those guys were backups who came in because of injury and never got a real shot.  He'd have to impress enough that some team is willing to give an unproven sixth round pick the keys.

 

He got drafted into the perfect situation.

[BudsOilers]

Bledsoe was the guy there when he got drafted and was close to if not the highest paid QB in the NFL at the time.  Let's not forget that in the same window of time, Manning had a shitty year with a bunch of turnovers and got Mora fired.

 

Regardless, Brady would have found a way to be great wherever he ended up.

[OzTitan]

It's hard to imagine a better situation to get drafted to (maybe except if he was drafted to an unproven QB room and won the gig day 1 in camp).

 

Worst case, he is starting his 4th season on his 2nd team IMO. If Matt Schaub can do that, so can Brady.

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On 2/19/2025 at 11:56 AM, TerryBoats said:

If he wasn't drafted by the Patriots, he'd be buttering biscuits at Church's Chicken right now.  Just look at how terrible of an announcer he is without Bill to prop him up.  He is a no talent hack who got lucky with Randy Moss and Julian Edelman carrying him all of those years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[No1TitansFan]

Something that rarely gets brought up is that Brady had Kraft in his corner even over BB. Kraft intervened on his behalf mutkple times.