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2024 General Election - Trump vs Kamala Harris


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1 hour ago, NashvilleNinja said:

 

We were painfully predictable to watch under Vrabel. Callahan's offense requires a decent QB to execute it. Well, surprise suprise... the NFL runs on decent QB play. Get him a QB and let's see if your pain goes away. Unless you just don't like touchdowns to be scored on pass plays that aren't play action plays.

QB is the most important player in every system. But the main goal is to protect the football. That's how you win the games. Margins are very small. If you want to have a short passing game, if you want to throw the ball 35 times per game, boy, you need to have an elite QB play to succeed. Some teams are stuck with non elite QB's for decades. And this statement about predictable offense. Man, we literally had the worst offense personnel in the league, I know that, you know that. In 2019 and 2020 we were killing it, and those offenses were better than any in Callahan's tenure with the Bengals. He had Burrow, Chase, Higgins and Boyd. 

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1 minute ago, oldschool said:

 

The funny thing is I don't think the things he says are wrong, but it's all basically non-sequitur.

 

His second paragraph is essentially what we've been saying though. Inflation!

 

But things like not having universal health care aren't the reasons Democrats lost the working class voters. He's just browbeating us with his stump speech again.

 

He would need some plan for combating inflation the past few years (no one on Earth really did find one other than time!).

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6 hours ago, BudsOilers said:

The problem is that a vast part of the voting population is not educated in true economics and does the simpleton this costs more than it used to.  On top of it. Biden/Harris and then Harris/Waltz messaged things were great and general public would not accept that stance.

Inflation since the great depression had been pretty cyclical with regular jumps during good times and then falling back.  In the 70s there was the mid east oil embargo that sent it skyrocketing. We had seen a huge long run where the Fed kept it really low through effective fiscal policy and our ability to take OPEC's stranglehold off the energy market since the 90s. A lot of people alive today had never experienced it and had settled into a norm of historically low Inflation and interest rates and of course reacted badly to the change. 

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10 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

The funny thing is I don't think the things he says are wrong, but it's all basically non-sequitur.

 

His second paragraph is essentially what we've been saying though. Inflation!

 

But things like not having universal health care aren't the reasons Democrats lost the working class voters. He's just browbeating us with his stump speech again.

 

He would need some plan for combating inflation the past few years (no one on Earth really did find one other than time!).

 

He was a big proponent of even more fiscal stimulus which led to hyper inflation that took years to address. 

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4 hours ago, Jamalisms said:

 

I shared it when he said it but my cousin directly said Trump turning into a dictator wouldn't matter because life would go on and his own (straight, white, Southern Baptist) wouldn't change much.

Almost every dictator was elected to a high office first and then consolidated absolute power from there. A large percentage of the population long for a strong male figure to tell them what to do and to a degree, how to think; no matter how much they profess to love liberty and freedom.  Look how much power some of these evangelical ministers yield over vast parts of their congregations. 

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28 minutes ago, Titans279 said:

 

The funny thing is I don't think the things he says are wrong, but it's all basically non-sequitur.

 

His second paragraph is essentially what we've been saying though. Inflation!

 

But things like not having universal health care aren't the reasons Democrats lost the working class voters. He's just browbeating us with his stump speech again.

 

He would need some plan for combating inflation the past few years (no one on Earth really did find one other than time!).

Not one politician has said how they plan to reduce the prices of every day goods. The next time Trump says what his plan is will be the first. 

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5 hours ago, Mythos27 said:

You're not going to explain complex issues to voters during a campaign. Trump sure as hell didn't do any of that. The communication has to be quick, quippy, and feel true. If it's longer than a tik tok vid you're doing it wrong. 

I tried multiple times engaging with conservative Trump leaning friends and colleagues on inflation since it was so important of an issue to them. What would Trump have done to prevent it? How is it all Biden's fault if it was worldwide? Will his proposals to fix it actually work given that tariffs have the opposite effect and oil companies have no incentive to invest in a lot of costly new drilling in a market where existing wells are producing at record levels and demand is tapering? All they cared about was since it was cheaper under Trump previously it would have to be again. 

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2 hours ago, Mercalius said:


Compared to yesterday and 2016 It’s almost like tens of millions of Democrat votes just…appeared in 2020.  Where did they go?  Strange that 😂

So if Dems were so goddamned smart to pull that off in 2020, why didn't they do it this cycle. 

 

Are they evil masterminds or inept folks? Can't be both of you live in reality. 

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4 hours ago, BudsOilers said:

In that link I posted earlier from Morning Joe, the WAPO guy said the most effective ad of the campaign was the trans one about Kamala helping inmates get sex change operations where the sound bite was "Kamala is for they/them.  Trump is for you."

 

Hindsight is 20/20 but picking Walz was a mistake - too far left and he got caught fibbing on a few things.  Shapiro was probably the better choice as a more centered candidate from a far more important swing state in PA.

 

 

They virtue signaled doing the right thing for an infinitesimaly small segment of the population that was a bridge too far for many Americans to way too large of a degree.

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3 hours ago, Jamalisms said:

Just looking at the popular vote right now is interesting. Trump got about what he did last time. The real difference is Biden voters not coming out to vote for Kamala. There's gonna be a shift in some demographics there but it's an interesting juxtaposition that will need studied and contrasted with ideas of new coalitions forming.

Biden was the last good centrist candidate outside of Pete, he just got too old and looked terrible on TV. There's a reason why he cleaned house once the primaries got to mainstream states in 20.

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What's funny is that the whole 20 M votes thing is now more like 14 M if you look at current counts  but California only has 54% of the vote tabulated and if the % stays the same, she'll have roughly 4 M more votes.  So then you're down to 10 M difference vs 2020.....

 

Not crazy to think 10 M voters nationwide flipped from D to R when you look at some of the exit poll demographics.

 

 

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