2024 General Election - Trump vs Kamala Harris

[ChesterCopperpot1]

30 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

Great post.  But most posters here only want to here one viewpoint and can't imagine that what they have been spoonfed has many holes in the narrative. 

So you were ok with Trump and his supporters trying to subvert the will of the voters and overturn the election? 

[LongTimeFan]

4 minutes ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

So you were ok with Trump and his supporters trying to subvert the will of the voters and overturn the election? 

I believe there were people who needed to be arrested. But the never ending attempts of trying to tie all things back to Trump is over played.

 

Are you OK with Harris donating to get looters out of jail? 

[Starkiller]

2 hours ago, No1TitansFan said:

Bush Family heritage goes back to NE (CT); Prescott Bush was very succesful

Also (allegedly) tried to overthrow the government…

[ChesterCopperpot1]

45 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said:

I believe there were people who needed to be arrested. But the never ending attempts of trying to tie all things back to Trump is over played.

 

Are you OK with Harris donating to get looters out of jail? 

Donating to a bail fund doesn’t bother me. I’m generally opposed to cash bail bc I believe it violates due process. This is not a blanket opinion, more of a general opinion. So no, it doesnt bother me. Should people who looted during protests be prosecuted? Yes. Do I think everyone who was at Jan. 6 is a criminal? No. I think everyone there was lied to and worked up into a frenzy, however. They were lied to for weeks by their cult leader. And make no mistake, Trump is the leader of a cult. Ya know, this isn’t an apples to apples comparison, but Charles Manson never actually killed anyone. His followers are the ones who committed the crime of murder. But he got convicted for being the leader of that cult. Same argument can apply to Trump and his cult. 

[Titans279]

My gut feeling is that Trump will win. 

[LongTimeFan]

2 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

Donating to a bail fund doesn’t bother me. I’m generally opposed to cash bail bc I believe it violates due process. This is not a blanket opinion, more of a general opinion. So no, it doesnt bother me. Should people who looted during protests be prosecuted? Yes. Do I think everyone who was at Jan. 6 is a criminal? No. I think everyone there was lied to and worked up into a frenzy, however. They were lied to for weeks by their cult leader. And make no mistake, Trump is the leader of a cult. Ya know, this isn’t an apples to apples comparison, but Charles Manson never actually killed anyone. His followers are the ones who committed the crime of murder. But he got convicted for being the leader of that cult. Same argument can apply to Trump and his cult. 

So what about all the Dem leaders that worked up people into a frenzy that only Black Lives Matter? Which caused rioting and looting and killing?

Then they bailed them out.

[WG53]

3 hours ago, LongTimeFan said:

Great post.  But most posters here only want to here one viewpoint and can't imagine that what they have been spoonfed has many holes in the narrative. 

Oh the irony.

[Titandan]

4 hours ago, LongTimeFan said:

Great post.  But most posters here only want to here one viewpoint and can't imagine that what they have been spoonfed has many holes in the narrative. 

I'm writing these long ass posts for the few who care about perspectives from the other side.

 

For those who think we are deplorable and "beyond repair," they can go fuck themselves. 

 

I had an idea @Strunk'sDessert was being a smart ass so I gave him a conditional fuck yourself from the get up.  Now I see he enjoys trolling dissenters but once we hit back, he leaves the panel like one of the screeching harpies from "The View."  Put me on ignore like a Karen ass bitch.  People like him are a waste of time.  But if any of my opposition cares to talk or switches over, I'll welcome him with open arms.  It's not about winning an argument.  It's about saving our country. 

[Titandan]

4 hours ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

So you were ok with Trump and his supporters trying to subvert the will of the voters and overturn the election? 

Not about subverting. Trump wanted to figure out what the fuck was going on.  

 

Why was this election counting being held up.  What's up with all these reports of new ballots all coming in for Biden.  My suspicion was that lot of sneaky ass shit was happening overnight.  

 

It was the Repubs fault for many of these states going along with changing the voting methods due to covid. But I, along with even my Democrat friends were like, why did the vote counting stall at like 1am pacific time?  

 

My dem friends all gave up, conceded defeat and left our discord election night "party." I had a sneaky suspicion something was going on even though Trump was winning all the battleground states he needed to win the election. Then in the next day and following couple days, Biden suddenly catches up.  

 

Besides the hanging chad incident in 2000, this was the longest I had to wait for a decision on election victory.  It was strange.  It literally felt like someone stole the election.  

 

That's not to say it's impossible that Biden suddenly got all the surge in voting overnight or in the following days.  But any sane person is going to want to get to the bottom of this. Trump had like couple dozen lawsuits to make sure these last minute votes were legit. They even went after dominion machines that some were alleging inaccurate vote counts. Also some ballots were coming in all for Biden.  

 

With mail in ballots and postponing ballot counting for days, any party can just gather more ballots, fill them out, forge signatures, and send them in without getting caught.  

 

That is the least transparent election we've ever had thanks for covid.  

 

And there's no way to prove otherwise so I didn't. But I still have my suspicions. 

 

But guess what? Dems still pushing mail in ballots, importing migrants to swing States, and no voter ID.  It's a recipe for success.  It also unconstitutional and it should be illegal.  

[titanruss]

On 10/15/2024 at 6:10 PM, Titandan said:

I'm watching the Bussin' with the Boys Podcast interviewing Trump.  

Trump said that Lou Gehrig took over a player named Wally Pipp.  He said Wally Pipp had a .280 average.  

I fact checked Trump and baseball reference says that Wally Pipp had a career .281 average.  Trump lied!  Am I right, boys?  He's such a complete imbecile and a dishonest buffoon.  I can't believe it.  Wow...

 

Its wild that you arent intelligent enough to tell a true lie from a general conversation... and that you believe everyone else has the same trouble you do.

[ChesterCopperpot1]

37 minutes ago, Titandan said:

Not about subverting. Trump wanted to figure out what the fuck was going on.  

 

Why was this election counting being held up.  What's up with all these reports of new ballots all coming in for Biden.  My suspicion was that lot of sneaky ass shit was happening overnight.  

 

It was the Repubs fault for many of these states going along with changing the voting methods due to covid. But I, along with even my Democrat friends were like, why did the vote counting stall at like 1am pacific time?  

 

My dem friends all gave up, conceded defeat and left our discord election night "party." I had a sneaky suspicion something was going on even though Trump was winning all the battleground states he needed to win the election. Then in the next day and following couple days, Biden suddenly catches up.  

 

Besides the hanging chad incident in 2000, this was the longest I had to wait for a decision on election victory.  It was strange.  It literally felt like someone stole the election.  

 

That's not to say it's impossible that Biden suddenly got all the surge in voting overnight or in the following days.  But any sane person is going to want to get to the bottom of this. Trump had like couple dozen lawsuits to make sure these last minute votes were legit. They even went after dominion machines that some were alleging inaccurate vote counts. Also some ballots were coming in all for Biden.  

 

With mail in ballots and postponing ballot counting for days, any party can just gather more ballots, fill them out, forge signatures, and send them in without getting caught.  

 

That is the least transparent election we've ever had thanks for covid.  

 

And there's no way to prove otherwise so I didn't. But I still have my suspicions. 

 

But guess what? Dems still pushing mail in ballots, importing migrants to swing States, and no voter ID.  It's a recipe for success.  It also unconstitutional and it should be illegal.  

He told the VP to not certify the election results. Every court case Trump brought was dismissed. And he wanted hand count recounts. That was done in several states. Know how long it takes to hand count ballots? A long fucking time. And he should blame states like PA for their election laws. Did you know in PA it’s unlawful to begin counting mail in ballots? They have to wait until Election Day. So that’s why you always had large jumps is the mail in ballots were being counted then. Instead of allowing them to be counted early, Pa makes election workers wait until Election Day. But we don’t really have national elections. So each state controls their elections and has their own laws. How PA does elections is different from TN. So maybe he should Be mad about that. 
 

Trump lost fair and square. That’s a fact. The country spoke and the country didn’t want him. He couldn’t handle rejection for the first time in his life. 

[begooode]

[Titandan]

1 hour ago, ChesterCopperpot1 said:

He told the VP to not certify the election results. Every court case Trump brought was dismissed. And he wanted hand count recounts. That was done in several states. Know how long it takes to hand count ballots? A long fucking time. And he should blame states like PA for their election laws. Did you know in PA it’s unlawful to begin counting mail in ballots? They have to wait until Election Day. So that’s why you always had large jumps is the mail in ballots were being counted then. Instead of allowing them to be counted early, Pa makes election workers wait until Election Day. But we don’t really have national elections. So each state controls their elections and has their own laws. How PA does elections is different from TN. So maybe he should Be mad about that. 
 

Trump lost fair and square. That’s a fact. The country spoke and the country didn’t want him. He couldn’t handle rejection for the first time in his life. 

I actually didn't know each state had different election system until 2020.  Kind of knew they had different types of ballots due to 2000 hanging chad event.  Win or lose, I always expected our system to be super safe and fair.  I'm actually not very much into the details.  I'm just an average guy who participated in elections since I was in college.  Prefer to stick to the policies than the logistics. 

2020 was an unprecedented event.  I don't think you can honestly say that wasn't the case.  Perhaps as a winner, you don't care.  I'm trying to give you a perspective of someone on the losing side of that event.  If you don't want to listen, please feel free not to. 

I never said what Trump did was right. I also didn't say that we had enough proof of election fraud to overturn the election.  It's on the Repubs in each state that agreed to these changes without push back.  That's why I'm more cautious this time around when we got scumbag governors like Newsom who want to get rid of Voter ID requirement and actually want to prevent cities from even requiring Voter ID. 

Mass Mail in Ballots is another issue. No way to verify if the voter actually did the filling out of the ballot. I collect memorabilia as a hobby and trust me, even the companies who verify signatures of public figures don't guarantee perfect verification and not all authentication companies even offer signature verification. 

We have a clear side that wants more transparency, security, and speed in the vote counts.  The other side doesn't. 

If you care at all about Fair Elections, that should speak volumes for you. 

[ChesterCopperpot1]

Holy. Shit. Antonio Brown is legitimately retarded. I can’t believe they thought having him speak was a good idea. Just listen to him talk. 
 

 

 

[Titandan]

2 hours ago, titanruss said:

 

Its wild that you arent intelligent enough to tell a true lie from a general conversation... and that you believe everyone else has the same trouble you do.

I'm not smart enough to lie.  God honest truth. 

Tell me where I'm off if there are any inconsistencies to my 'story.' 

 

My friends and I usually have election night parties.  2020, we decided to to it via discord because of the whole covid crap. Weren't elections pretty much called within the day of election night?  This was the first one that I can remember that was inconclusive. 

Two of my Democrat friends conceded that they lost. One was so pissed he cursed while logging off.  I told him it's not over yet.  I sensed some shit was brewing once my yahoo election map stopped vote counts when I refreshed every 5 minutes. 

You can accuse me of lying but that's exactly as I remembered it. 

Same shit happened with Los Angeles Mayoral Election a year to two ago.  Rick Caruso (moderate dem) was winning on election day and lo and fucking behold, Karen Bass (leftist) catches up a couple days later.