IsntLifeFunny Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: See, I wrote about this in 2018... Amigo, I was on this in 2014 when Clinton was ramping up. I'm not one upping you here. It's one of the main reasons why I voted for Gary Johnson and Ron Paul before him. I don't like how money has infiltrated our systems, but it is what it is and we have a conservative SC to thank for it. Citizens United completely fucked our political system. There's damn near zero accounting for the dark money in our politics. If that's what you're railing against I agree. It isn't to made equivocal to what's happening with Trump though. Two different ball games in an entirely different ballpark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 10 hours ago, heyitsmeallen said: It’s hilarious seeing all of the GOP upset over who is special council. I thought they wanted a special council? Specifically him… You can’t please these oafs. GOP has been pounding the table and demanding that a special investigator be appointed....but the very moment they get one, they immediately pivot and start complaining about it. This has nothing to do with the DOJ's selection. What we're seeing is a bunch of politicians positioning themselves to play the victim after a special investigation fails to find evidence to support their allegations. Republicans have absolutely zero interest in a fair and impartial investigation into the Biden family. What they want is a witch hunt with a predetermined outcome to support their allegations.....and it's the only answer they'll accept. In their minds, any investigation that finds otherwise must be rigged. OILERMAN, begooode, and heyitsmeallen 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OILERMAN Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 This is an old trick, Republicans talk about crimes and corruption and it catches on with no proof. It's worked on Hillary for decades pat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 hours ago, nine said: GOP has been pounding the table and demanding that a special investigator be appointed....but the very moment they get one, they immediately pivot and start complaining about it. This has nothing to do with the DOJ's selection. What we're seeing is a bunch of politicians positioning themselves to play the victim after a special investigation fails to find evidence to support their allegations. Republicans have absolutely zero interest in a fair and impartial investigation into the Biden family. What they want is a witch hunt with a predetermined outcome to support their allegations.....and it's the only answer they'll accept. In their minds, any investigation that finds otherwise must be rigged. JONATHAN TURLEY: The problem with this appointment is manifest. You know, Garland had the opportunity to do two things to regain the trust of the public. He could have appointed someone else as special counsel, and he could have expanded the mandate. He could have said, look, there are a lot of concerns about influence peddling crimes associated with the Biden family. We're going to have all of those investigated independently, and the facts will take it where it needs to lead. He didn't do that. Instead, he kept on referring to the mandate of investigating Hunter Biden, and he appointed the individual who's been criticized for weeks, accused by whistleblowers of being the head of what they suggest was a fixed investigation. Now, that's obviously not going to help the public trust any. The most immediate impact of this appointment will be to insulate the department itself. Weiss was supposed to testify in Congress. That's highly unlikely, if he does, it's unlikely he's going to give any real information. But there is another road here. You know, by not expanding the mandate, Garland may have fueled calls for the impeachment inquiry. You know, impeachment is sort of constitutional kryptonite. You know, no court that I know of would say that Congress does not have a duty to investigate allegations of corruption by President Biden and his family. This does not appear to be within the mandate laid out by the attorney general. And I want to note something else. Why wouldn't you answer that question? Why wouldn't you, you would just give great specificity as to the mandate with regard to Hunter Biden, why wouldn't the Justice Department answer clearly whether the president is within that mandate. And it speaks quite loudly to the rank and file. It suggests that we're not on board with investigating the president. And you have to keep in mind that this was the attorney general that said that Weiss had sweeping authority to investigate just Hunter Biden and yet this investigation was accused of being fixed and obstructed. Or ... "I think there are some legitimate questions about this whole situation," Tapper said on "CNN News Central." "First of all, I do think it’s fair to question why would U.S. Attorney Weiss be appointed to special counsel. Usually, a special counsel is an outside attorney. Now, it has happened before. Durham came from inside, and the attorney general has the right to do that, but it is odd." Tapper went on to ask why they would stick with the person who was responsible for the "colossal failure" of the Hunter plea deal and referenced questions about whether the original deal was "strong enough." He also spoke about the mixed messages regarding Weiss’ jurisdiction and whether he already had the necessary power to charge outside of Delaware before he was made a special counsel, recalling that the U.S. attorney had made different claims about his power in private versus in public, according to whistleblowers "The Justice Department and Weiss denied what the whistleblowers were saying, but this move makes it seem as though, well, maybe the whistleblowers were right. Maybe what they were alleging is true, and he didn’t have the ability to charge whatever he wanted to charge, and now he does. So I do have a lot of questions about that, and I do think some of the political questions being raised by Republicans have merit," Tapper said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 The GOP is always going to be critical of anything the Biden admin does. That includes giving them exactly what they ask for. OILERMAN, titanruss, ChemEngr79, and 1 other 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Right. Like any of that shit actually matters. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter who runs who runs an investigation, who they talk to, or what processes they use; if the outcome doesn't directly implicate Joe Biden, Republicans will denounce it as being rigged and refuse to accept the results. It's just like the whole Arizona recount/audit deal: the Republican-led state legislature had the audit done by an independent third-party company that was founded and owned by a known election-denying Trump donor. They walked in the door fully convinced they were about to blow the lid off by uncovering all this massive voter fraud..... fake ballots, ballot stuffing, illegitimate voters, etc.. But after investigating literally every single vote, verifying every voter, and literally putting ballots under a microscope, they were forced to admit the election results were accurate.....there was zero indication of fraud. And yet to this day, an awful lot of dumb-shit Republicans remain convinced Arizona was rigged. The GOP has zero interest in finding the actual truth; they care only for their agenda. They already know the exact (and only) outcome they're looking for and they already have a victory speech written and ready to go. The only problem is they're unable to produce a single shred of reality that supports it. begooode, MadMax, and titanruss 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 15 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Amigo, I was on this in 2014 when Clinton was ramping up. I'm not one upping you here. It's one of the main reasons why I voted for Gary Johnson and Ron Paul before him. I don't like how money has infiltrated our systems, but it is what it is and we have a conservative SC to thank for it. Citizens United completely fucked our political system. There's damn near zero accounting for the dark money in our politics. If that's what you're railing against I agree. It isn't to made equivocal to what's happening with Trump though. Two different ball games in an entirely different ballpark. This is some rich shit. Imagine believing Citizens United carries more weight than voters....and being a voter who refused to vote for the one party who wants to get dark money out of politics... America's core problem are dumb ass gotdamn voters, period. Starkiller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, luvyablue256 said: This is some rich shit. Imagine believing Citizens United carries more weight than voters....and being a voter who refused to vote for the one party who wants to get dark money out of politics... America's core problem are dumb ass gotdamn voters, I was a kid first off, and second I live in TN where national elections are going to Republicans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I was a kid first off, and second I live in TN where national elections are going to Republicans. I'll give a little grace for being young. As far as TN/GOP. Consider this for a moment. Who do you think helped Mo Brooks lose his Senate primary in Alabama to a milder conservative? It wasn't the mainline GOP primary voter.... Edited August 12, 2023 by luvyablue256 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 minute ago, luvyablue256 said: I'll give a little grace for being young. As far as TN/GOP. Consider this for a moment. Who do you think helped Mo Brooks lose his Senate primary in Alabama to a milder conservative? It wasn't the mainline GOP primary voter.... I understand your point. I've said on here I regretted it, but that doesn't mean I don't understand why I made a protest vote in those elections. I won't be doing it again. After Trump I will never vote for anything but a Democrat for a long time until some type of sanity is restored to Republicans, which I don't ever see happening. luvyablue256 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, IsntLifeFunny said: I understand your point. I've said on here I regretted it, but that doesn't mean I don't understand why I made a protest vote in those elections. I won't be doing it again. After Trump I will never vote for anything but a Democrat for a long time until some type of sanity is restored to Republicans, which I don't ever see happening. A lot of people made that mistake in 2016, including just abstaining altogether after Trump showed his true colors. I think we all need to face exactly why voters make these choices. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nine Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Here's a direct link to the letter sent to Merrick Garland by dozens of GOP Senators specifically requesting that David Weiss be named as special counsel in the Hunter Biden investigation. https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Hunter-Biden-Special-Counsel-Letter-FINAL-2.pdf begooode, and Starkiller 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 22 minutes ago, nine said: Here's a direct link to the letter sent to Merrick Garland by dozens of GOP Senators specifically requesting that David Weiss be named as special counsel in the Hunter Biden investigation. https://www.cornyn.senate.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Hunter-Biden-Special-Counsel-Letter-FINAL-2.pdf Don’t act like such a moron. That letter was long before Weiss offered the get off free plea deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Starkiller said: The GOP is always going to be critical of anything the Biden admin does. That includes giving them exactly what they ask for. Is that your libtard take? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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