Do we now agree that there's a Tannehill PROBLEM?

[titanruss]

17 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

Tannehill is a damn good QB, the Titans are lucky to have him and he doesn't need to be replaced, anyone saying that is stupid

 

The problem is the rest of the offense, Tannehill is a solution 

 

He's 34 starting next year. It's perfectly logical to consider taking a QB in the first 3 rounds starting this offseason. That gives the young guys  till RT is 37/38 to learn or beat him out.

[ctm]

There are too many holes just in the starting offensive lineup to take a QB with an early pick, especially with no 2nd.  The opportunity cost is too high.

 

Tannehill, Lewan, AJ, Henry, maybe Davis if you can stomach another year of his pass blocking.  That's it.

[OILERMAN]

Taking a QB early is totally stupid for many reasons

[OILERMAN]

The Tic Tac Titans podcast went over a bunch of numbers that totally show the problems are the cast around Tannehill and not Tannehill. Some of the stuff has been posted. His pass blocking is terrible, he's responsible for something like 3% of his total sacks, he's getting the ball out amongst the fastest QBs. 

 

But this stuff is common sense

[WG53]

49 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The Tic Tac Titans podcast went over a bunch of numbers that totally show the problems are the cast around Tannehill and not Tannehill. Some of the stuff has been posted. His pass blocking is terrible, he's responsible for something like 3% of his total sacks, he's getting the ball out amongst the fastest QBs. 

 

But this stuff is common sense

Yes, we know you always appeal to authority instead of having actual points.

[Mythos27]

Every time Tony Romo spoke about the Titans offense on Sunday, the focus was on how we had to protect Tannehill. He pointed out many instances where Tannehill was a split second away from a big play only for protection to break down. It was pretty clear that when speaking to the coaches, etc for the production meeting, the main issue with the offense was the OL. We know what the problem is. The issue is we might not have the tools to fix it. At this point I'm all for trotting Radunz out there. Give him a 3 game audition and see what happens. Can't keep letting Quess cripple us. 

[ctm]

31 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

Every time Tony Romo spoke about the Titans offense on Sunday, the focus was on how we had to protect Tannehill. He pointed out many instances where Tannehill was a split second away from a big play only for protection to break down. It was pretty clear that when speaking to the coaches, etc for the production meeting, the main issue with the offense was the OL. We know what the problem is. The issue is we might not have the tools to fix it. At this point I'm all for trotting Radunz out there. Give him a 3 game audition and see what happens. Can't keep letting Quess cripple us. 

 

If they haven't already done so, try Radunz at RT in practice first.  I have to think there is a reason that while he played LT in college, the staff moved him to OG almost immediately.

 

In OTA's and camp, the team had two starting OGs but no capable RT.  Yet they played him at OG.  Why??

[DecepticonShawn2]

17 hours ago, oldschool said:

 

The WRs are horrible, practice squad level. Westbrook-Ikine is the primary WR right now and he's a WR5 at best. I get the argument good Qbs don't need top tier WR talent to be good but they need NFL starting quality WRs and the Titans don't have that right now.

 

 It’s the combination of bad wrs who can’t get open and even when they do and the ball is delivered perfectly to them in their hands they drop it. If one of those two things isn’t happening than it’s the oline giving up immediate pressure and giving the qb no time to throw it. When all three of those conditions keep happening consistently over the course of a game you not gonna be able to have a quality passing offense.

[Nash]

Time to face the fact that “Father Time” has caught up with this team.. this off-season should be used to get younger on the oline, to get some tight ends, and to get our draft and salary cap situation straightened out..

[Mythos27]

32 minutes ago, ctm said:

 

If they haven't already done so, try Radunz at RT in practice first.  I have to think there is a reason that while he played LT in college, the staff moved him to OG almost immediately.

 

In OTA's and camp, the team had two starting OGs but no capable RT.  Yet they played him at OG.  Why??

The apparent answer is they think he sucks. They're good coaches so I admit, it is unlikely that he's much better than Quess otherwise the coaches would've started him already. That said, if we're going to struggle this badly, let it be because a rookie who might have a future with us is taking his lumps and developing rather than some career journeyman who will never be more than a back up. 

[VaTitan]

4 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Tannehill is a damn good QB, the Titans are lucky to have him and he doesn't need to be replaced, anyone saying that is stupid

 

The problem is the rest of the offense, Tannehill is a solution 

i totally agree with this.  But “damn good” and “elite” are 2 different things.  Is this a subtle shift in position???

[pat]

6 hours ago, reo said:

 

What are you talking about? You draft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd now while you still have RT with a few years on his deal. Let the kid sit for a bit. In a few years you re-evaluate. If he looks good and RT doesn't, you start the kid. If RT turns it around, you extend him and start him. If both look like crap, you dump both and draft one in the first. 

 

None of that stops you from addressing the OL this offseason unless you think they're drafting a savior for the OL in the late 2nd or 3rd round. 

No amount of development will make a David Mills into a Ryan Tannehill.

[oldschool]

16 minutes ago, Mythos27 said:

The apparent answer is they think he sucks. They're good coaches so I admit, it is unlikely that he's much better than Quess otherwise the coaches would've started him already. That said, if we're going to struggle this badly, let it be because a rookie who might have a future with us is taking his lumps and developing rather than some career journeyman who will never be more than a back up. 

 

Quessenberry starts because of his run blocking prowess which is damn good. They won't give that up unless Lamm or Radunz are significantly better in pass protection and probably not even then. 

 

I think they should start Lamm at RT, he's started there before in the NFL and been decent. Asking him to play LT is another matter.

[titanruss]

3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

Taking a QB early is totally stupid for many reasons

The QB won't be here in 4 more years- pretty much guaranteed. You're crazy if you don't think they consider going a QB highish the next couple years if they like a guy who falls. 

[XAEA12]

Tannehill hasn't put up the kind of performance he did in years past, but if you saw Brady against the Saints you'd see losing your top 3 WRs and starting RB got the GOAT his first scoreless game in 15 years. Tannehill lost all that plus has a new offensive system.