Popular Post Come on Titans Posted February 27, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 SpLeEnBeAnS, ChemEngr79, OILERMAN, and 8 others 5 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tgo Posted February 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Agreed fully. Starkiller, smokeater, reo, and 9 others 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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begooode Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, tgo said: What should be Zalensky’s terms? Indeed, Ukraine has never formally ceded Crimea, iirc, which was taken in 2014. Now give up eastern territory, too, plus a guarantee to not apply for NATO status, just when Ukraine finally has the world’s attention? Of course, bargaining with rockets pointed at your people is already a compromised situation. Peace should be goal #1. And then hope the world pressure with continued sanctions would be enough to seek a better outcome for Ukraine at a later date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 hour ago, OILERMAN said: Do you know how fucking stupid you sound spouting this shit right now? At this point, there is little difference between that stuff and some drunk person lamenting about how great his life would have been if not for the illumanti. OILERMAN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tgo Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 16 minutes ago, begooode said: What should be Zalensky’s terms? Indeed, Ukraine has never formally ceded Crimea, iirc, which was taken in 2014. Now give up eastern territory, too, plus a guarantee to not apply for NATO status, just when Ukraine finally has the world’s attention? Of course, bargaining with rockets pointed at your people is already a compromised situation. Peace should be goal #1. And then hope the world pressure with continued sanctions would be enough to seek a better outcome for Ukraine at a later date. He shouldn’t do anything beyond ceding Crimea and Donbas and declaring NATO neutrality. Russians want “demilitarization” and a Russian friendly government installed - that’s basically surrender. Fuck that. IsntLifeFunny, and ChemEngr79 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Guapo Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, ctm said: Putin isn't smart. He made a stupid, perhaps fatal, mistake. Biden, NATO, and a big part of the rest of the world are united against him. That in itself is no small accomplishment. Lets see what happens. NATO countries get much of their energy from Russia. They have never paid into NATO as expected. Hell, we import oil from Russia. At unbelievable prices, created in part. by our own stupid energy policies. Windfall got Russia. This is going to be shit for everyone. But maybe wind farms will make up for what we need. The left is uniformly bad for the country and the world. Might as well have elected Greta for all the idiocy they have created. oldschool, begooode, and Starkiller 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ctm Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/attack-on-ukraine-is-shaking-russian-society/vi-AAUn9Wr?ocid=msedgntp Wait till the Russian people see what happens tomorrow. I think there will be a major collapse of the Ruble when trading opens. ChemEngr79, tgo, and Starkiller 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
begooode Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, El Guapo said: Lets see what happens. NATO countries get much of their energy from Russia. They have never paid into NATO as expected. Hell, we import oil from Russia. At unbelievable prices, created in part. by our own stupid energy policies. Windfall got Russia. This is going to be shit for everyone. But maybe wind farms will make up for what we need. The left is uniformly bad for the country and the world. Might as well have elected Greta for all the idiocy they have created. When rant becomes reason. ctm, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Interesing thought. As he mentions downthread, there could be repercussions against their families. headhunter, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Granted this was made a month ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, tgo said: Interesing thought. As he mentions downthread, there could be repercussions against their families. Russians love their country. I don't see why they'd do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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