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Do you know how fucking stupid you sound spouting this shit right now? 

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2 hours ago, TF_Titan said:

 

Russia's economy is only slightly larger than the state of Florida. The bottom line is there's no way for them to build one of the largest militaries in the world without cutting some corners somewhere. My guess is those corners cut included training and testing.

 

Prior to WWII the U.S. designed some new fancy torpedoes, but never tested them because they were in a depression and torpedoes are expensive to build. They didn't want to "waste" them by destroying them in tests. It wasn't until they started using them in real combat that found out they didn't work. We may be seeing something similar with some of the Russian equipment.

 

Makes me wonder just how credible that story about those underwater nukes is. Then again, maybe that's where most of Florida's money went. 

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2 hours ago, 9 Nines said:

 

 

I just checked on this. It is mind boggling as far as thinking Russia is on par.  The US has 2600+  operational 5th generation stealth fighters.  Russia has none (maybe a few prototypes), and only has 125 4th generation, SU34s. 

 

 

 

Part of the problem w/ Russia iirc isn't really their tech advancement. it's that they have a shit ton of them. Even if our missile defense system has 100% success rate (it doesn't), if they shoot 500 missiles at us, we have issues.

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3 hours ago, TF_Titan said:

 

Russia's economy is only slightly larger than the state of Florida. The bottom line is there's no way for them to build one of the largest militaries in the world without cutting some corners somewhere. My guess is those corners cut included training and testing.

 

Prior to WWII the U.S. designed some new fancy torpedoes, but never tested them because they were in a depression and torpedoes are expensive to build. They didn't want to "waste" them by destroying them in tests. It wasn't until they started using them in real combat that found out they didn't work. We may be seeing something similar with some of the Russian equipment.

 

This is actually why CFD and other types of testing are so critical. 1 AIM9 costs $1M. So an AIM9 test that includes 3 shots, is at least $3M right there.

 

One of the biggest advantages the US has over other countries is our testing infrastructure. 

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2 hours ago, 9 Nines said:

So if NATO committed to a no fly zone, Russia would have to abandon the area or risk losing all if its air force inventory. 

 

You're not wrong. It's why Putin has already pulled the nuke card. On one hand he wants NATO involved b/c then he can spin it better to Russian citizens so they don't revolt but on the other hand, he knows he'd get kicked around. He's in a tough spot of his own making.

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Here's an example of what happens when US troops square off against Russians unrestrained.  tl;dr; Russia gets routed

 

I think what we are seeing is what Russia can do.

 

 

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I swear…the Republicans are legit concerns to national security and that of our allies. Congress was told directly to not post any information on social media during a zoom call with Zelinsky. So, of course two Republicans do the opposite. 
 

 

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