tgo Posted March 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Not really news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 Why in the hell would they use chemical weapons? Oh just to blame it Ukraine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted March 21, 2022 Report Share Posted March 21, 2022 5 hours ago, Rogue said: Did tgo die? Everyone needs a day off. tgo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 35 minutes ago, headhunter said: Why in the hell would they use chemical weapons? Oh just to blame it Ukraine Because they are getting humiliated by Ukraine in a conventional war Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted March 22, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 If I do die btw, just know it was fighting the Russians, and Avenge me, fellow keyboard warriors. IsntLifeFunny 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF_Titan Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, IsntLifeFunny said: Everyone needs a day off. When Putin takes a day off...then @tgo can take a day off. War is hell. wiscotitansfan, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post reo Posted March 22, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 3 hours ago, headhunter said: Their targeting systems suck if it was operational It's not really about their targeting system. Temperatures at hypersonic speeds can be insane. You're talking 1000+ deg easy. Sure, you can find materials to withstand those temperatures but then maneuverability becomes a problem. Designing control surfaces to withstand the stress of that type of flow field isn't easy but let's say you do then you can watch your wiring and actuators melt in half a second. These guys have their generals using their cell phones in the field b/c they can't figure out a secure comm system and they want us to believe they've developed fully functioning hypersonic weapons? Laughable. begooode, IsntLifeFunny, pat, and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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reo Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, headhunter said: Why in the hell would they use chemical weapons? Oh just to blame it Ukraine To kill civilians on a scale large enough that they lose the will to fight and surrender to make it stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, tgo said: This is how extremists are born. Civilians protest. Brutal government cracks down. Civilians fight back. Government cracks down harder. Civilians running out of options turn to terrorism and gorilla warfare as a last resort. It's about to get really bad for those troops. They're out numbered heavily. Those protests won't just be protests soon. IsntLifeFunny, ChemEngr79, Jerry Blair, and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, reo said: It's not really about their targeting system. Temperatures at hypersonic speeds can be insane. You're talking 1000+ deg easy. Sure, you can find materials to withstand those temperatures but then maneuverability becomes a problem. Designing control surfaces to withstand the stress of that type of flow field isn't easy but let's say you do then you can watch your wiring and actuators melt in half a second. These guys have their generals using their cell phones in the field b/c they can't figure out a secure comm system and they want us to believe they've developed fully functioning hypersonic weapons? Laughable. I don’t know, the Russian space program is still pretty damned good. I can only assume they still are also good at missile technology, too. Admittedly, I don’t know that I’d trust whatever guidance system they might have onboard a hypersonic missile. But if it’s designed to more or less fly in a straight line on its terminal attack vector and over relatively short distances they probably can make it work. Edited March 22, 2022 by Starkiller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Starkiller said: I don’t know, the Russian space program is still pretty damned good. I can only assume they still are also good at missile technology, too. Admittedly, I don’t know that I’d trust whatever guidance system they might have onboard a hypersonic missile. But if it’s designed to more or less fly in a straight line on its terminal attack vector they probably can make it work. Space programs and hypersonic weapons are completely different levels though. You're talking about something the US was able to accomplish in the 60's vs something we're still trying to figure out today. What the SLS is trying to do and what SpaceX is doing is also completely different things from hypersonic weapons. The problems you're trying to solve are very different. Edited March 22, 2022 by reo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkiller Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 minute ago, reo said: Space programs and hypersonic weapons are completely different levels though. You're talking about something the US was able to accomplish in the 60's vs something we're still trying to figure out today. What the SLS is trying to do and what SpaceX is doing is also completely different things from hypersonic weapons. I think it comes down to simplicity. I would not be at all surprised if they can build a hypersonic weapon that could be launched from right across the border and fly in a more or less straight line and hit a target a relatively short distance away. That’s a far cry from thinking they are capable of producing a truly advanced weapon that can travel hundreds of miles and change direction to avoid detection or defensive systems. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Starkiller said: I think it comes down to simplicity. I would not be at all surprised if they can build a hypersonic weapon that could be launched from right across the border and fly in a more or less straight line and hit a target a relatively short distance away. That’s a far cry from thinking they are capable of producing a truly advanced weapon that can travel hundreds of miles and change direction to avoid detection or defensive systems. There's nothing simplistic about a hypersonic weapon. And you don't use them for something a short distance away. They're developed so that they hit the target before air defense systems realize they're coming and can shoot them down. If they're a short distance away then you're not worried about those types of air defense systems. Edited March 22, 2022 by reo begooode, and pat 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Nines Posted March 22, 2022 Report Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, reo said: There's nothing simplistic about a hypersonic weapon. And you don't use them for something a short distance away. They're developed so that they hit the target before air defense systems realize they're coming and can shoot them down. If they're a short distance away then you're not worried about those types of air defense systems. This (using weapons that do not make sense) is why it might indicate Russia is running out of armaments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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