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Invasion of Ukraine: Drone Incursion Into Poland


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3 minutes ago, tgo said:


Interesing thought. As he mentions downthread, there could be repercussions against their families. 

 

Russians love their country. I don't see why they'd do that.

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Do you know how fucking stupid you sound spouting this shit right now? 

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2 minutes ago, Stan said:

older generations yes.. younger more progressive do not.

 

 

huge difference between not liking the direction of your government and not loving your country. For the most part Russians love their country.

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Just now, OILERMAN said:

The cost for Putin to completely take over and hold Ukraine is far greater than anyone expected, this is going to end badly for Putin 

His only leverage is selling oil and natural gas to Europe. He frankly should have timed an invasion to the beginning of winter, not the end of it.  Now his leverage is minimal and sanctions are going to gut Russia economically. 
 

He miscalculated badly. 

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2 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

The cost for Putin to completely take over and hold Ukraine is far greater than anyone expected, this is going to end badly for Putin 

there’s literally no motivation in their army to fight. You might have a few crazy psychopaths in their ranks who would love to kill for fun but you can’t tell me that there’s any real motivation for these guys to go in there with a take over mindset. It’s showing in the results. Ukrainians are willing to die to protect their land civilians too while the russians are trying to survive. Huge difference that’s why we still are in IRAQ today because the love of their country to kick out invades will never end. Russia will be fihhting a long war for years if they decide to stay. Putin may win the war but he’s already lost the battle 

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2 minutes ago, headhunter said:

Ukraine is putting up a damn good fight 

IIRC, and speaking in generalities, the best troops from the USSR days were from Ukraine. There’s a reason any former apparatchik who dreams wistful of the glory days of Moscow cannot countenance a Russia without Ukraine.

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