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3 hours ago, Stan said:

Now if only Iran would

hack the Epstein files and release them 

This is seriously, my wet dream

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You voted for no war.  Trump brought war.     You voted to root out and expose corruption.  Trump has been the most openly and shamelessly corrupt President in US history.    You voted t

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14 minutes ago, Stan said:

This is getting scary, someone’s gonna use a Nuke 

But at least the Epstein files are being distracted from.

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I read an article, that while based on assumptions seems sound: Iran has prepared for decades to withstand the US's predictable shock and awe campaign and now the US will be left with putting up (put boots on the ground) or shutting up (leave with no regime change.) So basically Iran might be turning "shock and awe" into "rope-a-dope" with Iran being Ali. 

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My buddy in China says their state media is showing complete destruction in Israel, that they’re not showing on any major news network on tv here in states , He said Tel Aviv looking like Gaza 

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20 minutes ago, nine said:

 

It cannot be overstated or repeated often enough:     the United Stats' war on Iran war been a mind-boggling display of incompetence and mind-numbing stupidity by US leadership.   We're talking Darwin award-level stuff, here.... "sits-in-the-corner-and-rubs-shit-in-his-hair" stupid.

 

This President took his country to war with no preparation, no strategy, no planning, and no  foresight.   No thought of whether or how the enemy would respond ...no consideration for any unexpected complications or potential fallout. 

 

He was warned against this specifically in regards to the Strait 

 

Joe Kent resigned over it

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1 hour ago, nine said:

 

It cannot be overstated or repeated often enough:     the United Stats' war on Iran war been a mind-boggling display of incompetence and mind-numbing stupidity by US leadership.   We're talking Darwin award-level stuff, here.... "sits-in-the-corner-and-rubs-shit-in-his-hair" stupid.

 

This President took his country to war with no preparation, no strategy, no planning, and no  foresight.   No thought of whether or how the enemy would respond ...no consideration for any unexpected complications or potential fallout.

 

Over and over in the past month, it's been one press conference after another with the President and/or Secretary of Defense effectively admitting, "Gosh, Wally....we didn't think about that!   We didn't know that would happen!"

 

As the leaders of the country and the US military,   it's their job to anticipate and know what's coming before it happens...and to be prepared and have a plan to deal with it.   Hence the term leadership...they're expected to lead.

 

What we're seeing is the exact opposite of leadership;  this is exactly what people mean when they call Trump and Hegseth unfit to lead.   POTUS and US SecDef are among the most important and influential jobs in the entire world.  These jobs demand an incredibly high level of knowledge, wisdom, experience,  and judgement.....qualities where Trump and Hegseth have continually shown themselves to be sorely and embarrassingly lacking.

 

Even if one supports and agrees with the Trump/MAGA ideology.....there's absolutely no denying that Trump's vanity war on Iran has been a disaster of epic proportions, alienating America's allies and creating mass disruptions for global oil markets and international trade everywhere.     

 

Trump has spent  $50-100 billion in the first month, all funded and paid for by American taxpayers.....a cost of roughly $500-1000 to each and every American family.   

 

But to what end?    I've yet to see any coherent explanation as to how this war will eventually benefit the United States and American citizens.    

 

And of course, now the Trump administration is desperately trying to negotiate an agreement just to go back to the same arrangement they  had a month ago....but Iran isn't having it.      Trump spent  $100B destroying what we had....and now less than a month later he's already begging to get it back.    But as it turns out, Iran isn't inclined to give it back without major concessions.

 

This isn't about anyone being pro- or anti-Trump;   what we've seen is just pure, unadulterated incompetence.    Trump's vanity war has America's allies turning their backs in droves and distancing themselves from the actions of the US.....they want nothing to do with this.       

 

In just a month's time, Donald Trump has turned the world's premier superpower into a punchline....the bumbling and incompetent laughingstock of the international community.      

 

MAGA has now become MAGJ:       Making America a Goddamn Joke.  

Trump and Bibi were the aggressors, fired the first shots, without Congress approval and in violation of international law. Probably committing war crimes as well.

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1 hour ago, OILERMAN said:

 

He was warned against this specifically in regards to the Strait 

 

Joe Kent resigned over it

Trump is functionally illiterate. He doesn't read and doesn't even want national security briefings. They just  show him short videos of US bombing to boost his ego and convince him we are winning. He gets his news by watching Fox.

 

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Meanwhile, all this is happening while isreal is taking over southern Lebanon, blowing up bridges, destroying civilian homes, and ultimately expanding it’s military bases…tell me you guys don’t see what’s happening what I’ve been saying this “war” has been about. Israel wants complete control in the Middle East, it wants to expand for a “greater Israel” into Iran, into Lebanon. They want the us to send in troops, get involved in a 10 plus year war, while Israel invades Lebanon and drives further north, in the end, Israel will tell the us it’ll take over in the Middle East, opening bases while wanting the Americans out.

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