Iran: To Strait or Not To Strait?

[OILERMAN]

1 minute ago, ctm said:

There is another huge problem.  Trump has yet to say what victory looks like.  When do we stop bombing?  When do we leave?  What does Iran look like when we leave?  

 

If you can't define the end game, when is it over?  No answers.

 

I'll guarantee he just up and leaves with a huge mess

[ctm]

9 minutes ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I'll guarantee he just up and leaves with a huge mess

 

So the plan is to leave and let what's  left of Iran to use their drones to control access to the Strait of Hormuz?

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/shahed-drones-iran-us-war-ukraine-russia-rcna261285

[IsntLifeFunny]

1 hour ago, ctm said:

 

So the plan is to leave and let what's  left of Iran to use their drones to control access to the Strait of Hormuz?

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/shahed-drones-iran-us-war-ukraine-russia-rcna261285

The funny part to me was hearing Hegseth say they can't outlast us. Who do they mean exactly? The regime? Okay well who takes over for the regime? Do those arsenals of drones they have hidden under the mountains disappear? Of course not. 

 

And now they're arming the Kurds. Libya x 10 is what we are staring at. Israel announced today they will just continue, with I'm sure the US doing the heavy lifting "in partnership", taking out Iranian leadership. What state can exist in such conditions?  

[Rogue]

 

 

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The "no wars" argument aligns with the America First argument.  It is keeping out of foreign affairs and using that money to go back to America.

It's an easy enough argument for the America First crowd.  "Let's put that money towards the US".   

This same crowd called democrats "the party of appeasement" during the run up to the Iraq War.  Now they are the party of appeasement?  Only on the surface because that's what they've been directed to believe.  

The Party that supported the Iraq War.  Supported Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran.  Supported torture.  

If anyone believes that if Trump were president and he declared war on another nation and the vast majority of MAGA wouldn't be behind it, and whatever it took, is just deusional.  They've already been there and they showed what they support.  

It's just talking points and it damned sure isn't what they believe.  The vast majority of them will support a US war with any nation Trump tells them it's vital to.  

Tell me you don't believe that.  

I made this post September 12th 2024.   Looking at social media posts, the vast majority of Maga are on board.  As we knew would happen.  

The real question is are they truly this stupid to not understand what they will support when told to, or do they know and just high-order liars?  

[chef]

5 hours ago, IsntLifeFunny said:

There really isn't much to be said about the Russian side except it's an obvious benefit to them. Rubio admitted the quiet part out loud that we did this on directive from Israel. 

 

The Quiet Part has been very very outloud back to Charlottesville and further.  Dog whistles turned into Klaxons

 

 

 

5 hours ago, Starkiller said:

Well I’m not going to personally go so far as to say it will burst the AI bubble. But largely I just don’t care. And it’s going to burst eventually anyway so this may be the economic event that triggers it.

 

It’s more important to focus on the idea that Iran could cripple the global economy in general. And the idea of them attacking desalinization plants is a possibility I hadn’t even considered but it would be a big deal. 

 

4 hours ago, reo said:

 

Yep same. I hadn't even considered them going after the water supply of allies.

 

4 hours ago, Starkiller said:

When you are facing your own destruction, sometimes the inevitable thought is to take your enemy out with you. A non-nuclear mutually assured destruction if you will.

 

Am I disturbed that that stuff cross my head immediately??  If it were an option for the Russians v Ukraine you know they would have hit it. Find the weak points.  Strike.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, OILERMAN said:

 

I'll use this every time from this day forward!

 

Spread the word!  Get it trending.   Wish had been my thought but saw it earlier.  Made me think of Nic Cage on SNL with Ahs-wee-pay (Asswipe) Johnson skit where he considered all the baby names that would be made fun of.  I think the planning dept for this one missed that skit.

 

 

 

[Starkiller]

The White House said on Wednesday that Spain has agreed to cooperate with the U.S. military after President Donald Trump threatened to cut off trade, but Spain denied ‌making such a deal.

[Stan]

Iran was within weeks of  having nukes everyone … like within weeks, even after WE destroyed 98 percent of their facilities last year. We dodged a bullet guys…phew. 
 

Those tapes on trump must be extremely bad. Like I’m talking he killed a child on camera bad. 

[Stan]

Bibi called the White House asking if we are secretly talking to Iran to make a deal he’s fucking panicked because this is his war the lies ontop of lies. The bloodshed for a country that we should not be funding or supporting. This has to be a made up timeline like we can’t be living in real times. You have the liars in office who are all evil and corrupt you have nethaynau whose even more evil and corrupt and now both sides are afraid of their own shadows they don’t know who to trust. 

[IsntLifeFunny]

A montage of stupid people disagreeing with the idiot running the country and his lackey at the newly cemented Department of War about what the term war means. 

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/s/VGvWYO17Sl

 

 

Edited March 5 by IsntLifeFunny

[Rogue]

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5768104-zelensky-announces-aid-middle-east/

 

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky on Wednesday announced his country is sending some of its military specialists to the Middle East to help counter Iranian drones and missiles.

In a post to the social platform X, Zelensky said he has tasked Ukraine’s minister of foreign affairs, minister of defense, intelligence agencies and the secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine “to present options for assisting the relevant countries and to provide aid in a way that does not weaken our own defense” in Ukraine.
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He noted he is consulting with partners in Europe and the United States and that he spoke with the leaders of several countries neighboring Iran, including the United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Jordan and Bahrain. Talks with Kuwait and other countries in the region are also planned.

“All of them face a serious challenge and speak openly about it: Iranian attack drones are the same ‘shaheds’ that have been striking our cities, villages, and our Ukrainian infrastructure throughout this war,” he added
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The relatively cheap weapons, which cost roughly $50,000 to produce, are quickly becoming a problem in the now five-day U.S.-Israeli war against Iran. The drones have hit regional allies of Washington, including the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Jordan, as Tehran attempts to inflict damage to Gulf countries friendly with the U.S. or hosting American troops.
 

The attack drones represent a major challenge to the U.S. military, with air defenses unable to detect and intercept them all given their ability to fly low and slow, Trump administration officials told lawmakers during a closed-door briefing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, as reported by CNN

What’s more, the easy-to-manufacture aircraft are causing American forces to rapidly use up expensive and hard-to-produce munitions and are able to sneak through and damage bases, ports and critical infrastructure when defenses get saturated. It was a drone attack that killed six U.S. service members on Sunday in Kuwait.

First, I don't imagine Ukraine offering up help without some hope they might get some help back. 

That said, I rermember the New Jersey Drone incident fairly recently.  One of the theories was that US drone tech was not up to snuff, and that was an operation to up it.  Who knows?  But this article would suggest we aren't able to defend against drone attacks the same way we can against tradritional attacks....and Ukraine might be the forefront on the defense to that tech. 

What that ultimately means, I don't know.  But I do think it's a shift in warfare that we might not be in the forefront.  Certainly beyond the dumbasses in charge.  

 

 

Edited March 5 by Rogue

[MadMax]

29 minutes ago, Stan said:

Those tapes on trump must be extremely bad. Like I’m talking he killed a child on camera bad. 

And it's obvious that they've been shared among Isreal, Russia, UAE, etc...   I can't wait until they're leaked.

[OILERMAN]

2 hours ago, Titandan said:

Don't worry, fellas!

 

 

[OILERMAN]

 

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It’s hilariously pathetic how Trump’s  supporters were all passionate and fervent with the “No New Wars!” battle cry and championing Trump as the “President of Peace” .   Yeah, right.

One of Trump’s first official actions was the renaming of the former Department of Defense  to the “Department of War”.  In his first 12-13 months, Trump has ordered more new military operations, attacks, and full-scale engagements in more foreign countries  than any other POTUS has had in a full eight-year term. 

 

The whole “no new wars/President of Peace” angle was clearly bullshit.  It was  a flat-out lie…and these poor gullible suckers ate it up like a crack whore sucking dick in an alley for a bag of rock.
 

In the entire 250 years of America’s existence, Trump is the ONLY President  to go to war with a foreign country without consulting Congress for approval and a proper declaration of war.    
 

Trumps’s actions in Iran are so unprecedented and blatantly out of line, even his most ardent and fervent supporters needed a few days to buy in and talk themselves into accepting it.  
 

But just as we predicted, they finally managed to convince themselves that a President going rogue and taking the country to war without Congressional authorization is like TOTALLY  normal and perfectly fine. 

[reo]

 

 

Bc some ppl need visuals.