luvyablue256 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 (edited) Note that this tweet is from the comms director of the NRCC. The movement is staggeringly unpopular (only 18% in favor) Edited August 5, 2021 by luvyablue256 Number9, and IsntLifeFunny 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 The GOP loyalists don't give a shit what Dems say. Just the fact that a Dem says it makes it bad. FOX News will scream and rage and tell their brainwashed masses just what to be outraged about every minute of the day. Should the police spend their money on military equipment? Does every police officer need SWAT training, etc? If the conversation doesn't get to questions related to these, then you aren't likely to have a very constructive discussion. WG53, and OILERMAN 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldschool Posted August 5, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Just now, CreepingDeath said: The GOP loyalists don't give a shit what Dems say. Just the fact that a Dem says it makes it bad. FOX News will scream and rage and tell their brainwashed masses just what to be outraged about every minute of the day. Should the police spend their money on military equipment? Does every police officer need SWAT training, etc? If the conversation doesn't get to questions related to these, then you aren't likely to have a very constructive discussion. Its not about the GOP, its what Moderates and independents think about the messaging in swing districts... defund the police is a moronic message period. LongTimeFan, 'Nator, luvyablue256, and 5 others 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, oldschool said: Its not about the GOP, its what Moderates and independents think about the messaging in swing districts... defund the police is a moronic message period. Especially with crime, including violent crime, up across the nation. Especially in the cities..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CreepingDeath Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, oldschool said: Its not about the GOP, its what Moderates and independents think about the messaging in swing districts... defund the police is a moronic message period. I agree that "defund" is stupid and not clear at all. titanruss 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvyablue256 Posted August 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 The House is already fragile enough to where gerrymandering itself will hurt Dems. This is war, and the DNC needs to treat it as war. Primary out all these bad actors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 1 hour ago, luvyablue256 said: Note that this tweet is from the comms director of the NRCC. The movement is staggeringly unpopular (only 18% in favor) Do you really think anyone knows who Cori Bush is outside of people who follow politics? I sure don’t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 2 hours ago, oldschool said: Its not about the GOP, its what Moderates and independents think about the messaging in swing districts... defund the police is a moronic message period. What exactly are you suggestions to punish a police department when they have been found to routinely violate American's constitutional rights? Little Earl, and LongTimeFan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgo Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Idiotic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsntLifeFunny Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 hours ago, luvyablue256 said: Note that this tweet is from the comms director of the NRCC. The movement is staggeringly unpopular (only 18% in favor) If I was a Republican I would vote for this lady every time. What an absolute idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 5 hours ago, CreepingDeath said: Should the police spend their money on military equipment? Does every police officer need SWAT training, etc? If the conversation doesn't get to questions related to these, then you aren't likely to have a very constructive discussion. I think they need better messaging as well. If they tailor the message to describe what they mean people would at least get their point. When I heard defund the police I wasn't jumping for joy. IsntLifeFunny, and Btowner 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, Number9 said: I think they need better messaging as well. If they tailor the message to describe what they mean people would at least get their point. When I heard defund the police I wasn't jumping for joy. No one will ever need police services, ever, because police only serve the government. The supremes have ruled repeatedly that the police have no obligation whatsoever to protect you, and they also have no obligation to protect anyone's property, which becomes glaringly obvious whenever there are riots and looting and the stupid worthless pigs are all hiding in the donut shop. Cops don't protect, or even care about, your life, your liberty, or your property. This "defund the police" movement is the best idea the left have ever came up with. BudsOilers 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, unauthorizedcinnamon said: No one will ever need police services, ever, because police only serve the government. The supremes have ruled repeatedly that the police have no obligation whatsoever to protect you, and they also have no obligation to protect anyone's property, which becomes glaringly obvious whenever there are riots and looting and the stupid worthless pigs are all hiding in the donut shop. Cops don't protect, or even care about, your life, your liberty, or your property. This "defund the police" movement is the best idea the left have ever came up with. I get where you are coming from, but the police help stop murder, rape, break-ins and robberies. One major problem is exactly what you say. The police protect the supremes. The police are the pawns in the facilitation of the drug business in America. The money spent in this country on illegal drugs and the destruction caused by them is enormous. One figure is 150B annually. The supremes are the drug cartels, the bankers, the D.A.'s, the judges and the lawyers. The police patrol the streets and help stop all out war between rivals. Their goal is not to stop the movement of drugs. Take the money out. Legalize and educate. Legalize every illegal drug on the market. Reefer Madness!! Package drugs like they do n England with warning labels on their cigarettes. Crack-Highly Addictive, you probably will die soon with a crack pipe in your hand. $1 Let them go beg for money like the alcoholics. No automatic weapons killing innocent children. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titans279 Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 I basically agree with this. I think what should really happen is that "officers need to be held to a higher standard of conduct with real sanctions for misconduct" which likely would take more funding. Reforms need to happen though. Increasing funding without reforms is just going to make the problems we have even worse. oldschool, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudsOilers Posted August 5, 2021 Report Share Posted August 5, 2021 Defunding or reducing the police budgets, in the places they did so in an overreaction to George Floyd, have been massive failures. Reduced police forces, slower responses, and low and behold a dramatic rise in crime (robbery, drugs, rape, assault, murder). There's no question that police need more training and accountability when officers fail to uphold the standard of being an officer but if the democrats run again on "defund the police" after nationwide spikes in crime, they'll be out of power in the mid-terms. The vast majority of Americans don't want to live in war zones that are in places like Chicago's south side......or any other inner big city crap hole. As for drugs, the black market for drugs isn't going away even if you legalize it given all of the government restrictions they put on legal pot growers. The idea that legalizing hard drugs will fix anything is ludicrous. oldschool, and luvyablue256 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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