reo Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, abenjami said: What is your case for wiping the slate clean for a college student who got federal student loans but doing nothing for a similar college student who ended up with private loans or credit card debt to pay for the same education? Who says I'm only for just wiping federal student loans? Federal is probably just easier to do. I should probably also note as a sidenote that I don't really have a lot of student loan debt. This isn't really about me. Edited July 29, 2021 by reo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bink said: I agree here, although I am not opposed to generally wiping the slate clean to stimulate the economy and as an acknowledgment that students loans and the cost of education became extremely predatory and this would be akin to a bailout. We've seen government bailouts and government funds directed all over the place--why not something that for once would help a wide range of ordinary Americans? None of this happening in a vacuum. To the original post quoted here, an easy to apply for and get loan forgiveness for people that serve the public good would be fantastic. It's absurd the number of teachers I know that had to rack up debt to take on a sub $50k lifetime job to do a job that is vastly underrated by society. The amount of cost saved just by the basic childcare school provide alone should make folks want to help teachers. I think the best plan would be to reform the system and look into public service jobs that are underpaid. If you want to be a teacher, a social worker, or a police officer (PLEASE let's get more educated cops), you shouldn't have any debt as far as I am concerned. I would be open to this idea. Peace core plan on steroids. Obama wanted to pitch a National Service program as well but could never get buy in. Btowner, and IsntLifeFunny 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJClown Posted July 29, 2021 Report Share Posted July 29, 2021 6 hours ago, abenjami said: I didn't say "the federal government has the power" to forgive private debt. It's certainly strongly implied in "the federal government has the power." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 11 hours ago, oldschool said: I would be open to this idea. Peace core plan on steroids. Obama wanted to pitch a National Service program as well but could never get buy in. I'm open to student loans being forgiven for active teachers with over 5 years of experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abenjami Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Btowner said: I'm open to student loans being forgiven for active teachers with over 5 years of experience. Why not forgive them in pieces on a yearly basis or something? 10% per year over 10 years, etc. Otherwise you might get a bunch who quit after year 5. Btowner, chef, and IsntLifeFunny 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, abenjami said: Why not forgive them in pieces on a yearly basis or something? 10% per year over 10 years, etc. Otherwise you might get a bunch who quit after year 5. Great idea and I'm not even a teacher. Edited July 30, 2021 by Btowner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 Free public education has been a very successful policy in America for many years. I don't understand why that should halt at high school. reo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Earl Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 2 hours ago, pat said: Free public education has been a very successful policy in America for many years. I don't understand why that should halt at high school. Why forgive just student loan debt, we should just pay for everybody’s education. While we are at it let’s pay for free housing for all, free cars for transportation, free universal income for food and utilities, and free health care. Money is no problem and the debt is meaningless…..in a libtard fantasyland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Little Earl said: Why forgive just student loan debt, we should just pay for everybody’s education. While we are at it let’s pay for free housing for all, free cars for transportation, free universal income for food and utilities, and free health care. Money is no problem and the debt is meaningless…..in a libtard fantasyland. I wonder why you are afraid no one will work for you if they have the option to do something else. Jamalisms 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number9 Posted July 30, 2021 Report Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) I already weighed in on this topic before. The elites do not deserve taxpayer money. People choose college to advance economically and to engage in a profession they choose. Joe Six Pack is working in the factory that would hire him. Don't take Joe's money to pay Bill's tuition. The educational system is flawed. The U.S. Government has allowed this money monster to devour the savings, loans, prostitution and drug dealing monies of the people to be gouged by the educational system. They allowed the ITT Techs to get loans for the homeless. Paying off the student loan debt allows the educational system to continue to rob and steal. Even if you did pay off the loans, where does the debtors income qualification cap. Then you also see who really benefits from the loan repayments-THE LENDERS. The lenders then go restart the jumbo mortgages again. First time home buyers can borrow 125% loan to value. That way you don't have to wait to furnish your home. We'll give you 25% extra money to buy a house full of Rooms to Go. You then get to pay interest on furniture for 30 years. If you do not fix flaws in systems, they fail. There are honest economists who tell the government banking system all the flaws of these systems they allow to run until they blow up. Then they ask dumb ass Joe Six Pack to pay. Edited July 30, 2021 by Number9 make post clearer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 Dumb ass liberals want to tax the rich on one hand and then forgive their student loans on the other hand. https://www.savingforcollege.com/article/who-owes-the-most-student-loan-debt All the while fleecing the people who vote for them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, LongTimeFan said: Dumb ass liberals want to tax the rich on one hand and then forgive their student loans on the other hand. so? OILERMAN, and MadMax 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeFan Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, reo said: so? And that answer shows why you are the perfect liberal stooge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reo Posted August 1, 2021 Report Share Posted August 1, 2021 8 minutes ago, LongTimeFan said: And that answer shows why you are the perfect liberal stooge. b/c you misunderstand the viewpoints and reasoning for liberals? LongTimeFan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btowner Posted August 2, 2021 Report Share Posted August 2, 2021 On 7/30/2021 at 9:46 AM, Little Earl said: Why forgive just student loan debt, we should just pay for everybody’s education. While we are at it let’s pay for free housing for all, free cars for transportation, free universal income for food and utilities, and free health care. Money is no problem and the debt is meaningless…..in a libtard fantasyland. What happened to American exceptionalism when it comes providing higher education for our children? Each time we discuss the subject, you get extreme, silly responses like this from right wingers. How can a country like Germany have their children learn English as a second language, have free college tuition with parents either paying room and board or a small stipend. I wonder what is so wrong about providing free education that we cannot model the same for certain STEM related or education degrees? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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